Hi Everyone! FYI As per your request Libby, I spoke to a Meter Engineer, Rob Romak, at SRP. I initially spoke with him back in October when the Smart Meters were installed. He said that there is no plan to do away with the M-Power Meter. There is some talk about replacing it with a modem type meter that runs through your phone lines. They call it PLC Technology (Power Line Carrier Technology) He wanted to know if I like the prepay meter or would prefer not to have to do that. Rob said that the M-Power is not wireless. It runs through the house wiring to the display box. I don't think I would have been able to tolerate my house if it were wireless. SRP is working on options for people with health issues relating to the RF frequencies. Rob was empathetic and asked me what symptoms I had. He will make a report and forward it to his boss. He did say also that we can't get away from the RF signals. They are everywhere. So it is a good thing that SRP has a level of understanding in regards to this & is working on options. Now APS on the other hand is another issue. Not sure about Tucson. Rob also said that doing away with ALL landlines does not make any sense because if the cell towers were down there would have to be an alternative method of communication. He was not familiar with FCC's plans. For those of you that want to look at the M-Power Prepay Meter, here is the link! www.srpnet.com/payment/mpower/ There is a video you can view also. Dawn; you asked me for a picture & there is some pics on the website. Loni Rosser On Sun, 4/17/11, Elizabeth Kelley <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Elizabeth Kelley <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: The emPOWER meter is wireless also (from Steen) To: [hidden email], "Loni Rosser" <[hidden email]>, "Susan Malloy" <[hidden email]>, "Dawn Leslie" <[hidden email]>, "Melinda Honn" <[hidden email]> Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 11:55 AM Some time ago, we learned that we had referred to the wrong meters. It s not an EMPOWER meter but an "M-Power" pay as you go meter. Here are news stories about it. http://www.metering.com/node/15542. Note that SRP is a public utility (not an investor owned and operated) based in Phoenix. More articles http://news.consumerreports.org/home/2007/11/smart-meters-prepaid-meters-electricity-use-save-energy-salt-river-project-mpower-plan.html. http://tdworld.com/mag/power_customers_power_home/. By "paying as you go" the customer gets a fixed amount of electrical energy to use. they only go to the home to repair the meter upon request. SRP thinks this is smart and sustainable. SRP thinks that is smart Loni Rosser in Mesa, who is EHS, has had one installed in her home for a few moths ago and has not complained about any related health problems. If this is true, why not look more closely at that option? The Salt River Project offers m-power meters as an alternative, for now. However, SRP just got a smart grid grant though. LEt's hope that they do not decide to install the communicating ones with antennas. If anyone has had any direct experiences to report with a utility over smart meters please send them to Susan Molloy or me. A group of us are meetig on Wednesday with a commissioner on the AZ Corporation Commission. Elizabeth Kelley Arizonans for Safer Utility Infrastructure From: [hidden email] Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:32:22 -0700 Subject: The emPOWER meter is wireless also (from Steen) To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; [hidden email]; [hidden email]; [hidden email] The emPOWER meter constantly transmits wirelessly to a display/control unit inside the house. The display shows how much money is left in the meter. Turning off or moving the in-house display is unlikely to help, except on the transmissions FROM the display/control unit. The good news is that the emPOWER meter will only need to transmit at a lower power level to reach the in-house unit, as compared to the other types of wireless meters. It may be similar to a baby monitor or remote thermometer. Steen (via Joy) Please address any replies directly to: [hidden email] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I dont trust PLC, though the utilities use some version of it on their
lines. It would be nice if they offered a way to filter it off of your lines. It would be good to know what frequencies and bandwidth they use. Is it quiet on the AM radio test? On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Everyone! FYI > > As per your request Libby, I spoke to a Meter Engineer, Rob Romak, at SRP. > I initially spoke with him back in October when the Smart Meters were > installed. He said that there is no plan to do away with the M-Power Meter. > There is some talk about replacing it with a modem type meter that runs > through your phone lines. They call it PLC Technology (Power Line Carrier > Technology) He wanted to know if I like the prepay meter or would prefer not > to have to do that. > > Rob said that the M-Power is not wireless. It runs through the house wiring > to the display box. > I don't think I would have been able to tolerate my house if it were > wireless. > > SRP is working on options for people with health issues relating to the RF > frequencies. Rob was empathetic and asked me what symptoms I had. He will > make a report and forward it to his boss. He did say also that we can't get > away from the RF signals. They are everywhere. > > So it is a good thing that SRP has a level of understanding in regards to > this & is working on options. Now APS on the other hand is another issue. > Not sure about Tucson. > > Rob also said that doing away with ALL landlines does not make any sense > because if the cell towers were down there would have to be an alternative > method of communication. He was not familiar with FCC's plans. > > For those of you that want to look at the M-Power Prepay Meter, here is the > link! > www.srpnet.com/payment/mpower/ > > There is a video you can view also. Dawn; you asked me for a picture & > there is some pics on the website. > > Loni Rosser > > > On Sun, 4/17/11, Elizabeth Kelley <[hidden email]> wrote: > > From: Elizabeth Kelley <[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: The emPOWER meter is wireless also (from Steen) > To: [hidden email], "Loni Rosser" <[hidden email]>, > "Susan Malloy" <[hidden email]>, "Dawn Leslie" < > [hidden email]>, "Melinda Honn" <[hidden email]> > Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 11:55 AM > > Some time ago, we learned that we had referred to the wrong meters. It s > not an EMPOWER meter but an "M-Power" pay as you go meter. Here are news > stories about it. http://www.metering.com/node/15542. Note that SRP is a > public utility (not an investor owned and operated) based in Phoenix. More > articles > http://news.consumerreports.org/home/2007/11/smart-meters-prepaid-meters-electricity-use-save-energy-salt-river-project-mpower-plan.html. > http://tdworld.com/mag/power_customers_power_home/. > > By "paying as you go" the customer gets a fixed amount of electrical energy > to use. they only go to the home to repair the meter upon request. SRP > thinks this is smart and sustainable. SRP thinks that is smart Loni Rosser > in Mesa, who is EHS, has had one installed in her home for a few moths ago > and has not complained about any related health problems. If this is true, > why not look more closely at that option? > > The Salt River Project offers m-power meters as an alternative, for now. > However, SRP just got a smart grid grant though. LEt's hope that they do not > decide to install the communicating ones with antennas. > > If anyone has had any direct experiences to report with a utility over > smart meters please send them to Susan Molloy or me. A group of us are > meetig on Wednesday with a commissioner on the AZ Corporation Commission. > > > Elizabeth Kelley > Arizonans for Safer Utility Infrastructure > > > > From: [hidden email] > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:32:22 -0700 > Subject: The emPOWER meter is wireless also (from Steen) > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; [hidden email]; > [hidden email]; [hidden email] > > The emPOWER meter constantly transmits wirelessly to a display/control unit > inside the house. The display shows how much money is left in the meter. > Turning off or moving the in-house display is unlikely to help, except on > the transmissions FROM the display/control unit. > > The good news is that the emPOWER meter will only need to transmit at a > lower power level to reach the in-house unit, as compared to the other types > of wireless meters. It may be similar to a baby monitor or remote > thermometer. > > Steen > > (via Joy) > > Please address any replies directly to: [hidden email] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
This maybe a few years old but worth passing on.
http://electrosensitivity.co.uk/bbcemr.mp3 Best Giles [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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PUK replies - Dont you just hate this statement !!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
and......... In a message dated 18/04/2011 22:11:12 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: SRP is working on options for people with health issues relating to the RF > frequencies. Rob was empathetic and asked me what symptoms I had. He will > make a report and forward it to his boss. He did say also that we can't get > away from the RF signals. They are everywhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Which statement? What is your question and..............
--- On Tue, 4/19/11, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Conversation with Meter Engineer SRP To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 3:45 AM PUK replies - Dont you just hate this statement !!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and......... In a message dated 18/04/2011 22:11:12 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: SRP is working on options for people with health issues relating to the RF > frequencies. Rob was empathetic and asked me what symptoms I had. He will > make a report and forward it to his boss. He did say also that we can't get > away from the RF signals. They are everywhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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