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alinepapille

Computer shielding

Hi,

My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery back-
up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume to
be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months even
though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take notice
by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and it's
not the chair!).

So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the SPECTRUM®
Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor screen.

Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too and
what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?

Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with these
products?

Thanks,
Aline

jaime_schunkewitz

Re: Computer shielding

If it's ELF that bothers you then the screens
you mention won't help. Though it's probably
the RF that's causing the damage.

I have veilshield covering my LCD monitor.
It doesn't do crap to reduce the RF, at least
that's what my meter and my symptoms says. But
I keep it there anyway.

Remeber that shielding can work for or against you.
There's a lot of trial and error involved.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], "Aline" <haikuron@...> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery back-
> up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume to
> be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months even
> though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
> less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take notice
> by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and it's
> not the chair!).
>
> So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the SPECTRUM®
> Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
> also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor screen.
>
> Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too and
> what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?
>
> Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with these
> products?
>
> Thanks,
> Aline
>

BiBrun

Re: Computer shielding

I have had success using fabric to block some RF frequencies.
Veilshield is good for a monitor, but very thin, almost delicate.
But I've stopped using it (my 15" LCD is TCO certified (which unfortunately
isn't too strict regarding RF), and I keep it over 2 feet away--but maybe I
should shield it). I've
also used "high performance silver mesh"
<http://lessemf.com/fabric.html#1222>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:03 PM, jaime_schunkewitz <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> If it's ELF that bothers you then the screens
> you mention won't help. Though it's probably
> the RF that's causing the damage.
>
> I have veilshield covering my LCD monitor.
> It doesn't do crap to reduce the RF, at least
> that's what my meter and my symptoms says. But
> I keep it there anyway.
>
> Remeber that shielding can work for or against you.
> There's a lot of trial and error involved.
>
> Eli
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Aline" <haikuron@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery back-
> > up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume to
> > be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months even
> > though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
> > less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take notice
> > by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and it's
> > not the chair!).
> >
> > So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the SPECTRUM(R)
> > Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
> > also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor screen.
> >
> > Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too and
> > what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with these
> > products?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aline
> >
>
>
>

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skolyer

Re: Computer shielding

In reply to this post by alinepapille

I have had good results using a Kenmark LCD TV model number 15KN10E5. Telephone number for Kenmark on this manual is 1-866-346-7176. It does not seem to have a transformer in the monitor and has it in the cord near the end of the cord which I have in my faraday cage several feet away from the computer. I use two screens. One is just an ungrounded anti glare screen and it is the first screen. The second screen is a grounded screen from Less EMF. Can't say why it works better with two screens but it does.
----- Original Message -----
From: Aline
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: [eSens] Computer shielding

Hi,

My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery back-
up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume to
be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months even
though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take notice
by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and it's
not the chair!).

So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the SPECTRUM®
Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor screen.

Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too and
what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?

Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with these
products?

Thanks,
Aline

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alinepapille

Re: Computer shielding

In reply to this post by jaime_schunkewitz

I thought that these shields block electric fields as well as RF. I
have the same feeling when I am near an extension lead so I think
electric fields bother me.

I didnt realise screens emitted RFs too??

Thanks for clarification.

Aline

In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
wrote:

>
> If it's ELF that bothers you then the screens
> you mention won't help. Though it's probably
> the RF that's causing the damage.
>
> I have veilshield covering my LCD monitor.
> It doesn't do crap to reduce the RF, at least
> that's what my meter and my symptoms says. But
> I keep it there anyway.
>
> Remeber that shielding can work for or against you.
> There's a lot of trial and error involved.
>
> Eli
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Aline" <haikuron@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery

back-
> > up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume
to
> > be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months
even
> > though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
> > less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take
notice
> > by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and
it's
> > not the chair!).
> >
> > So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the
SPECTRUM®
> > Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
> > also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor
screen.
> >
> > Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too
and
> > what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with
these
> > products?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aline
> >
>

alinepapille

Am I plugging myself in to the electrical circuit?

In reply to this post by jaime_schunkewitz

I'm starting to think it is having my hands on the keyboard and mouse
that are affecting me because it is 'plugging' me into the electrical
circuit of the whole house.

Would gloves or some type of personal shielding work better?

Aline

--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:

Marc Martin

Re: Am I plugging myself in to the electrical circuit?

Administrator

> I'm starting to think it is having my hands on the keyboard and mouse
> that are affecting me because it is 'plugging' me into the electrical
> circuit of the whole house.
>
> Would gloves or some type of personal shielding work better?

Presumably your keyboard and mouse have plastic surfaces, so
they are not conducting electricity and gloves wouldn't make
any difference.

It is certainly possible that you have a keyboard or mouse
that is unnecessarily difficult to tolerate, and you might
want to try buying an old one on eBay to see if it's
more tolerable? For example, many mouses sold today
are wireless, use optical tracking, and are USB. I on the
other hand am using a wired mouse with the old ball
tracking and PS2 connector. Although, I'm not convinced
that USB is any more difficult to tolerate than PS2,
I do believe that the ball mouses are easier to tolerate
than the optical mouses.

Marc

BiBrun

Re: Computer shielding

In reply to this post by alinepapille

They will block electric if grounded. The low frequency magnetic field
they won't block.

Bill

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Aline <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I thought that these shields block electric fields as well as RF. I
> have the same feeling when I am near an extension lead so I think
> electric fields bother me.
>
> I didnt realise screens emitted RFs too??
>
> Thanks for clarification.
>
> Aline
>
> In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "jaime_schunkewitz"
> <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > If it's ELF that bothers you then the screens
> > you mention won't help. Though it's probably
> > the RF that's causing the damage.
> >
> > I have veilshield covering my LCD monitor.
> > It doesn't do crap to reduce the RF, at least
> > that's what my meter and my symptoms says. But
> > I keep it there anyway.
> >
> > Remeber that shielding can work for or against you.
> > There's a lot of trial and error involved.
> >
> > Eli
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Aline"
> <haikuron@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > My computer is way more comfortable now I have moved the battery
> back-
> > > up and tower far away but I still feel invaded by what I presume
> to
> > > be ELFs from my screen and keyboard. I've ignored it for months
> even
> > > though I feel very drained and tense after using the computer for
> > > less than an hour but now my body has decided to make me take
> notice
> > > by giving me back pain (only when I sit at the computer - and
> it's
> > > not the chair!).
> > >
> > > So now I am wondering what shielding to use. Looking at the
> SPECTRUM(R)
> > > Contour Filter, the DELUXE CENTER-MOUNT ANTI-RADIATION SCREEN and
> > > also considering just using Clear-Shield to cover the monitor
> screen.
> > >
> > > Is it advisable to cover the back with some shielding cloth too
> and
> > > what about using VeilSheild to cover the keypad?
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any advice based on their own experince with
> these
> > > products?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aline
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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S Andreason

Re: Am I plugging myself in to the electrical circuit?

In reply to this post by alinepapille

Hi Aline,

Yes, having your hands on the keyboard or mouse IS likely to affect you.
When I hold my Zap Checker over the (ball type) mouse, I can clearly see
the meter go from 2 up to 80 as I close in on the last half inch. It is
strongest near the cord from the computer, )and this is with a coil
clamped on the cord at the computer end.)

This is a problem with no good solution.
I tried gloves, and it seemed to make a small difference for me. It
might help if I could ground them to a different circuit or ground. I
have simply had to retrain myself to "Remove the hand from the mouse"
when not in use, like when reading.

Just remember, the computer radiates EMF noise, as does the monitor, and
all components attached to it.

Stewart

Aline wrote:
> I'm starting to think it is having my hands on the keyboard and mouse
> that are affecting me because it is 'plugging' me into the electrical
> circuit of the whole house.
>
> Would gloves or some type of personal shielding work better?
>