Computer Reactions

I'm at the library on the computer. There are lots of them around me. I am not getting fried here like I do at my house on my computer. What is the difference?
 
Just weird. Loni


     

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> I'm at the library on the computer. There are lots of them around me. I
> am not getting fried here like I do at my house on my computer. What is
> the difference?

It could be the particular brand of computer/monitor, or it could be
the power quality. My guess is the first.

Marc

Hmm that's funny because my inclination is the latter. Ha ha.
 
I'm on a dell here & I have a dell at home? 
 
Is it maybe that the electricity in my house is just sooooo dirty that it is that toxic.
 
This is mind boggling. I seriously think I need to come to the library fromnow on & do my emails etc.
 
Loni


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> I'm at the library on the computer. There are lots of them around me. I
> am not getting fried here like I do at my house on my computer. What is
> the difference?

It could be the particular brand of computer/monitor, or it could be
the power quality. My guess is the first.

Marc








     

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> Hmm that's funny because my inclination is the latter. Ha ha.

Heh, heh... well, I always say to "go with your intuition". :-)
 
> I'm on a dell here & I have a dell at home? 

All Dells are not created equal -- you'd have to get exactly
the same setup that you used in the library to know for
sure. Or maybe you should at least try to let us all
know, for anyone who is in the market for a tolerable
computer?

Marc

The library probably has wiring all in solid metal conduit.
That will block electric fields well.

But it could be something else. Sometimes in a stimulating
environment I don't realize I'm being affected until I get
back home.
Bill

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Ive noticed this too, they still affect me but I just dont feel it as much maybe its the stimulating environment like Bill said, when I have my cousins over at my house and were on the computer watching videos I noticed thatI dont notice my symptoms as much.

It could also be that the computers in libraries and public places are usually different than the ones for home, some computer manufacturers sell computers specifically designed for industrial,public,military,government usesect... and they are built differntly and have different parts than computers for home use, for instance miltary and government computers are requiredto have a certain amount of EMF shielding so they dont cause interference with other equipment.

-Cris

> Ive noticed this too, they still affect me but I just dont feel it as
> much maybe its the stimulating environment

Hmmm, I've noticed that public places can be worse than being in
my "normal" places. For example, I was at a movie last week,
and usually I think of being in a movie theater as being a "safe"
place, but in this case I think I was surrounding by people who
all owned iPhones. :-(

Marc

I usually feel great in the theater!  You need to go on a slow night Marc!  LOni

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> Ive noticed this too, they still affect me but I just dont feel it as
> much maybe its the stimulating environment

Hmmm, I've noticed that public places can be worse than being in
my "normal" places. For example, I was at a movie last week,
and usually I think of being in a movie theater as being a "safe"
place, but in this case I think I was surrounding by people who
all owned iPhones. :-(

Marc








     

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Bloody iphones me too!
This taken from the 3G iphone manual its so safe???
I like the bit about dizziness? 
Seizures, Blackouts, and Eyestrain  A small percentage of people may be 
susceptible to blackouts or seizures (even if they have never had one before) 
when exposed to flashing lights or light patterns such as when playing games 
or watching video. If you have experienced seizures or blackouts or have a 
family history of such occurrences, you should consult a physician before 
playing games (if available) or watching videos on your iPhone. Discontinue 
use of iPhone and consult a physician if you experience headaches, blackouts, 
seizures, convulsion, eye or muscle twitching, loss of awareness, involuntary 
movement, or disorientation. To reduce risk of headaches, blackouts, seizures, 
and eyestrain, avoid prolonged use, hold iPhone some distance from your 
eyes, use iPhone in a well lit room, and take frequent breaks. 
iPhone’s SAR measurement may exceed the FCC exposure guidelines for 
body-worn operation if positioned less than 15 mm (5/8 inch) from the 
body (e.g. when carrying iPhone in your pocket). For optimal mobile device 
performance and to be sure that human exposure to RF energy does not 
exceed the FCC, IC, and European Union guidelines, always follow these 
instructions and precautions: When on a call using the built-in audio receiver 
in iPhone, hold iPhone with the dock connector pointed down toward your 
shoulder to increase separation from the antenna. When using iPhone near 
your body for voice calls or for wireless data transmission over a cellular 
network, keep iPhone at least 15 mm (5/8 inch) away from the body, and only 
use carrying cases, belt clips, or holders that do not have metal parts andthat 
maintain at least 15 mm (5/8 inch) separation between iPhone and the body. 
If you are still concerned about exposure to RF energy, you can further limit 
your exposure by limiting the amount of time using iPhone, since time is a 
factor in how much exposure a person receives, and by placing more distance 
between your body and iPhone, since exposure level drops off dramatically 
with distance. 












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> Ive noticed this too, they still affect me but I just dont feel it as

> much maybe its the stimulating environment  



Hmmm, I've noticed that public places can be worse than being in

my "normal" places. For example, I was at a movie last week,

and usually I think of being in a movie theater as being a "safe"

place, but in this case I think I was surrounding by people who

all owned iPhones. :-(



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 











     

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PUK replies - it could also be as I have said before that you immune system
does not imedietely recognise the RF profile in the room of that coming
from the novel computer and so remains aquiescent if you used this set up day
by day and only one began to experience symptoms I believe that your
immune system would tag the RF profile of this vicinity, dont forget that in
your home your immune system has shed loads of time to react and will have
less didstractions than in a crowded place - its a very complex system and its
a pity that we cant extract it and lay on a couch and have some therapy
and counselling with it !!!!! but alas we have to go the long way round..

paul


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I'm at the library on the computer. There are lots of them around me. I
> am not getting fried here like I do at my house on my computer. What is
> the difference?

It could be the particular brand of computer/monitor, or it could be
the power quality. My guess is the first.




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