ComfortZone Re: oil-filled radiator space heaters?

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ComfortZone Re: oil-filled radiator space heaters?

Minni
For the record, I've been using ComfortZone oil-filled radiator for the past few years next to my bed, due to drafty room (and the need to supplement the 1950s horrendous forced-air system built into the house).

I've noticed that switching to 900W or 1500W makes no difference in warmth - rather only turning the knob clockwise to Higher makes it warmer.

Anyway here's the story:

Occasionally, especially when it's been cold & I'd turn it more toward High, I'd find that the next day upon waking, my body would be overheated with heart palpitations. It's not so bad, I can live with it (better than being cold which causes me worse issues).

This DEFINITELY has nothing to do with chemicals, since there's absoltely no chemicals on this heater.

It probably just is related to the EMFs due to turning it on Higher setting.

P.S. On a tangent, another thing driving me bananas now, is Yahoo's new policy of vocal ads which comes thru even though my speakers are turned off. (Sorta like those LOUD beeps come thru telephone when taking phone off hook.Maybe I should muffle them in pillows like I do with the phone. Or maybe Ishould complain to SUN-HEAT re: their ads.. ahem..

Minni

--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

>
> I would suggest that the problem is likely to be offgassing of paint and
> other protective materials. Sue had very similar problems when we turnedon
> a new oil-filled radiator recently. Conversely, she has never had problems
> with similar older units which no longer offgas. Another thing that gave
> problems was when we bought a portable electric hotplate to try to avoid
> using the gas hob; the plastic surface gave off fumes which she reacted to,
> even after several attempts at heating the unit to offgas it.
> Ian
>
> _____  
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
> Martin
> Sent: 29 November 2006 17:57
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [eSens] oil-filled radiator space heaters?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> For years, I've kept our bedroom warm during the winter using
> an electric space heater containing coils and a fan ("Vornado"
> brand). This seemed to not be working well anymore, so I went
> out and bought a new oil-filled radiator ("Delonghi" brand).
> Surprisingly, I find that I'm getting adverse symptoms from
> this, where I never had adverse symptoms from the previous
> space heater. Symptoms include "burning face", winces of
> pain throughout my body, nausea, headache. I don't know
> if this is electrical related, or perhaps off-gassing of
> chemicals. Also, I'm not sure why this should bother me
> when the previous space heater didn't. (they are being
> run in the same environment, at about the same wattage).
>
> I checked a nearby outlet with the Stetzerizer meter, and
> it shows no increase in noise with the radiator on.
>
> Marc
>
>
>  
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog
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P.S. this Delonghi vs. Lasko thread may interest

Minni
P.S. This thread from the Green Canary group should interest, since it includes comments re: Delonghi & re: the top-rated Lasko:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenCanary/message/17451

Note that Lasko was also top-rated on consumersearch.com

Minni


--- In [hidden email], "minnimall" <minnimall@...> wrote:

>
> For the record, I've been using ComfortZone oil-filled radiator for the past few years next to my bed, due to drafty room (and the need to supplement the 1950s horrendous forced-air system built into the house).
>
> I've noticed that switching to 900W or 1500W makes no difference in warmth - rather only turning the knob clockwise to Higher makes it warmer.
>
> Anyway here's the story:
>
> Occasionally, especially when it's been cold & I'd turn it more toward High, I'd find that the next day upon waking, my body would be overheated with heart palpitations. It's not so bad, I can live with it (better than being cold which causes me worse issues).
>
> This DEFINITELY has nothing to do with chemicals, since there's absoltelyno chemicals on this heater.
>
> It probably just is related to the EMFs due to turning it on Higher setting.
>
> P.S. On a tangent, another thing driving me bananas now, is Yahoo's new policy of vocal ads which comes thru even though my speakers are turned off.(Sorta like those LOUD beeps come thru telephone when taking phone off hook. Maybe I should muffle them in pillows like I do with the phone. Or maybeI should complain to SUN-HEAT re: their ads.. ahem..
>
> Minni
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest that the problem is likely to be offgassing of paint and
> > other protective materials. Sue had very similar problems when we turned on
> > a new oil-filled radiator recently. Conversely, she has never had problems
> > with similar older units which no longer offgas. Another thing that gave
> > problems was when we bought a portable electric hotplate to try to avoid
> > using the gas hob; the plastic surface gave off fumes which she reactedto,
> > even after several attempts at heating the unit to offgas it.
> > Ian
> >
> > _____  
> >
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf OfMarc
> > Martin
> > Sent: 29 November 2006 17:57
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [eSens] oil-filled radiator space heaters?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For years, I've kept our bedroom warm during the winter using
> > an electric space heater containing coils and a fan ("Vornado"
> > brand). This seemed to not be working well anymore, so I went
> > out and bought a new oil-filled radiator ("Delonghi" brand).
> > Surprisingly, I find that I'm getting adverse symptoms from
> > this, where I never had adverse symptoms from the previous
> > space heater. Symptoms include "burning face", winces of
> > pain throughout my body, nausea, headache. I don't know
> > if this is electrical related, or perhaps off-gassing of
> > chemicals. Also, I'm not sure why this should bother me
> > when the previous space heater didn't. (they are being
> > run in the same environment, at about the same wattage).
> >
> > I checked a nearby outlet with the Stetzerizer meter, and
> > it shows no increase in noise with the radiator on.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog
PUK
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Re: P.S. this Delonghi vs. Lasko thread may interest

PUK

In a message dated 21/12/2009 22:46:47 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I never had adverse symptoms from the previous
> > space heater. Symptoms include "burning face", winces of
> > pain throughout my body, nausea, headache. I don't know
> > if this is electrical related


puk replies - presume you have checked the emf and Efeild levels ? also
the switch might be pumping out hf noise the stetzer meter does not pick up
anthing over 100hz or is it khz.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: P.S. this Delonghi vs. Lasko thread may interest

BiBrun
I was advised to use Cadet SoftHeat heaters, and though some
of them gurgle and hiss (they need to be very level, but could
be defective sometimes) they work and are good EMF wise once
you get about 2 feet away. They do emit fumes for the first 2 hours or so.
There are rubberized tubes at the mounting points inside I was advised to
remove (just need a screwdriver). Also, there are stick-on labels. In some
cases these came off easily, in others I could not get them off. I use the
240Volt wired-in kind. They do make a plug-in version...I assume it is
similar. They are 'hydronic'
which I think means water inside the tube.

These are expensive, over $200 depending on size. The hydronic feature
means there is no exposed element that could burn dust. The Lasko one is
much cheaper and if your place is very low-dust might work fine.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:51 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> In a message dated 21/12/2009 22:46:47 GMT Standard Time,
> [hidden email] <minnimall%40yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I never had adverse symptoms from the previous
> > > space heater. Symptoms include "burning face", winces of
> > > pain throughout my body, nausea, headache. I don't know
> > > if this is electrical related
>
> puk replies - presume you have checked the emf and Efeild levels ? also
> the switch might be pumping out hf noise the stetzer meter does not pick up
>
> anthing over 100hz or is it khz.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: P.S. this Delonghi vs. Lasko thread may interest

Marc Martin
Administrator
Regarding space heaters, I've been working on that for a while, as
our bedroom always gets too cold in the winter without them. I've
found that the oil filled radiators seem more tolerable than the
fan-driven ones from an EMF standpoint. However, one radiator
I bought (I think it was a Delonghi) had a terrible chemical
offgassing problem so I had to get rid of it. I also find that
keeping the wattage as low as possible makes them more tolerable.
(also, I think changing from an innerspring mattress to a latex
mattress helped with this)

Marc

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Re: P.S. this Delonghi vs. Lasko thread may interest

Minni
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That quote isn't from me, so i wouldn't know.

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

>
>  
> In a message dated 21/12/2009 22:46:47 GMT Standard Time,  
> minnimall@... writes:
>
> I never had adverse symptoms from the previous
> > > space heater. Symptoms include "burning face", winces of
> > > pain throughout my body, nausea, headache. I don't know
> > > if this is electrical related
>
>
> puk replies - presume you have checked the emf and Efeild levels ? also
> the switch might be pumping out hf noise the stetzer meter does not pickup
> anthing over 100hz or is it khz.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Electrostatically Yours,
Minni, Lysine4flu blog