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rowster_c
I'm operating on my reserves now at this time of
night. On beds I have a wooden base futon.

Um, I have been going pretty hard at something for
a month or so, and may have a mission for anyone
in the UK who wants it. If this comes back with a
certain result this could be quite important.

I have been concentrating hard on the bees'
'colony collapse disorder', and looking at the
history. I have gone back to one of the earlier
and major appearances, known as the 'Isle of Wight Disease'.
To put not to fine a point on it, I got stuck right
in to the history. I have written a first draft
of this on a beekeeper list that was not that
well received but widely read.

Straight to it. I don't want to repeat it now, but
I have carefully cross- correllated the outbreak of
'Isle of Wight Disease' (the collapse of beehives
from 1900/ 04- 1925/ 27) with the original
Marconi wireless telegraph in the UK, the US, and
around the world. I have found some facts that
even in their current form make a case and are
compelling to investigate. "Isle of Wight Disease' (IOWD)
came at the almost exact period and exact place
as Marconi wireless telegraph on the IOW, and
went with the movement of Marconi VLF to
shortwave in 1925/ 27. Outbreaks are seen
in the close vicinity of Marconi wireless
telegraph transmitters, and the world's first radio
station was on the Isle of Wight.

There are some specific comparisons to be made that
I will do a post on. Also, Marconi died from
angina pectoris, similar to the 'pseudostenocardia'
of USSR radar troops, and there is evidence he
may have been the first electrosensitive.

I will do a post, but it will become clear that
the main way to resolve this issue is for someone
in the UK to take a trip to Surrey for an afternoon
or two, in addition to the calls I am making.
While its too late at night here, there
is a realistic chance it may be of significant
benefit if someone could make themselves available
for an afternoon or two as a coworker. If Marconi's
wireless telegraph caused the IOWD, we are
home and hosed for the future, and the
beekeepers are helped. Or the search may
prove he was not involved in that issue
at all.

Many thanks, if someone could muse on this
possibility for a while I can get back with
a description.

Rowan C.

PUK
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PUK

In a message dated 7/7/2007 3:30:56 PM GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

the main way to resolve this issue is for someone
in the UK to take a trip to Surrey for an afternoon
or two, in addition to the calls I am making.
While its too late at night here, there
is a realistic chance it may be of significant
benefit if someone could make themselves available
for an afternoon or two as a coworker. If Marconi's
wireless telegraph caused the IOWD, we are
home and hosed for the future, and the
beekeepers are helped. Or the search may
prove he was not involved in that issue
at all.

Many thanks, if someone could muse on this
possibility for a while I can get back with
a description.



Ilive in surrey - what would be required of me ?

Paul UK






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rowster_c
That absolutely fantastic Paul, a real coincidence
that you live in Surrey, that's the damnedest thing.

Box Hill is a suburb in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne
Australia, next door to 'Surrey Hills'. Many suburbs are
named after UK suburbs here. I have returned here
after living with my beautiful lady in Brisbane for
nearly a year, and we are moving house. With sun in
brisbane its not such a problem with not wearing
shoes.

The trip involves trawling some records at a place
in Surrey, hopefully no more than 1 or 2 afternoons
work. I will send you all the details in the
next couple of days for you to look at. Just going
out now for family lunch.

Thanks, Rowan.

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

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> Ilive in surrey - what would be required of me ?
>  
> Paul UK
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Yolanda LaCombe
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I have been following this pretty closely. I actually spoke with an  
organic beekeeper recently. (I live in Southern California). She  
suspects the GM crops, most specifically GM corn. It is in the corn  
syrup that the conventional bee growers feed when they have sold all  
the honey. Also in the ethanol used in the US. I think Europe has  
other sources for ethanol.

I actually think it is a variety of causes and that it is not  
necessary to have all the causes present to get the bees to exit a hive.

1) cell phones and cell phone towers.

2) GM

3) insecticides

4) Varroa mite

5) The bees are just bloody well tired of being exploited.

The significance of these factors is not necessarily in the order of  
their appearance.

Just my thoughts,

Yolanda
On Jul 7, 2007, at 7:30 AM, rowster_c wrote:

> I'm operating on my reserves now at this time of
> night. On beds I have a wooden base futon.
>
> Um, I have been going pretty hard at something for
> a month or so, and may have a mission for anyone
> in the UK who wants it. If this comes back with a
> certain result this could be quite important.
>
> I have been concentrating hard on the bees'
> 'colony collapse disorder', and looking at the
> history. I have gone back to one of the earlier
> and major appearances, known as the 'Isle of Wight Disease'.
> To put not to fine a point on it, I got stuck right
> in to the history. I have written a first draft
> of this on a beekeeper list that was not that
> well received but widely read.
>
> Straight to it. I don't want to repeat it now, but
> I have carefully cross- correllated the outbreak of
> 'Isle of Wight Disease' (the collapse of beehives
> from 1900/ 04- 1925/ 27) with the original
> Marconi wireless telegraph in the UK, the US, and
> around the world. I have found some facts that
> even in their current form make a case and are
> compelling to investigate. "Isle of Wight Disease' (IOWD)
> came at the almost exact period and exact place
> as Marconi wireless telegraph on the IOW, and
> went with the movement of Marconi VLF to
> shortwave in 1925/ 27. Outbreaks are seen
> in the close vicinity of Marconi wireless
> telegraph transmitters, and the world's first radio
> station was on the Isle of Wight.
>
> There are some specific comparisons to be made that
> I will do a post on. Also, Marconi died from
> angina pectoris, similar to the 'pseudostenocardia'
> of USSR radar troops, and there is evidence he
> may have been the first electrosensitive.
>
> I will do a post, but it will become clear that
> the main way to resolve this issue is for someone
> in the UK to take a trip to Surrey for an afternoon
> or two, in addition to the calls I am making.
> While its too late at night here, there
> is a realistic chance it may be of significant
> benefit if someone could make themselves available
> for an afternoon or two as a coworker. If Marconi's
> wireless telegraph caused the IOWD, we are
> home and hosed for the future, and the
> beekeepers are helped. Or the search may
> prove he was not involved in that issue
> at all.
>
> Many thanks, if someone could muse on this
> possibility for a while I can get back with
> a description.
>
> Rowan C.
>
>
>



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Ian Kemp

5) The bees are just bloody well tired of being exploited.
 
LOL ... nice thought Yolanda, brightened up my Sunday.
 
My godson keeps bees and was telling me that there are about 50,000 in a
hive. If they ever got really unhappy, they could make life quite tricky
for us! If Alfred Hitchcock was still around I'm sure he could think up a
film based on this ... The Bees ...
 
And you could have a Hitchcock double bill - The Birds and The Bees :-)
 
Ian

_____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Yolanda LaCombe
Sent: 08 July 2007 03:23
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Colony Collapse Disorder



I have been following this pretty closely. I actually spoke with an
organic beekeeper recently. (I live in Southern California). She
suspects the GM crops, most specifically GM corn. It is in the corn
syrup that the conventional bee growers feed when they have sold all
the honey. Also in the ethanol used in the US. I think Europe has
other sources for ethanol.

I actually think it is a variety of causes and that it is not
necessary to have all the causes present to get the bees to exit a hive.

1) cell phones and cell phone towers.

2) GM

3) insecticides

4) Varroa mite

5) The bees are just bloody well tired of being exploited.

The significance of these factors is not necessarily in the order of
their appearance.

Just my thoughts,

Yolanda
On Jul 7, 2007, at 7:30 AM, rowster_c wrote:

> I'm operating on my reserves now at this time of
> night. On beds I have a wooden base futon.
>
> Um, I have been going pretty hard at something for
> a month or so, and may have a mission for anyone
> in the UK who wants it. If this comes back with a
> certain result this could be quite important.
>
> I have been concentrating hard on the bees'
> 'colony collapse disorder', and looking at the
> history. I have gone back to one of the earlier
> and major appearances, known as the 'Isle of Wight Disease'.
> To put not to fine a point on it, I got stuck right
> in to the history. I have written a first draft
> of this on a beekeeper list that was not that
> well received but widely read.
>
> Straight to it. I don't want to repeat it now, but
> I have carefully cross- correllated the outbreak of
> 'Isle of Wight Disease' (the collapse of beehives
> from 1900/ 04- 1925/ 27) with the original
> Marconi wireless telegraph in the UK, the US, and
> around the world. I have found some facts that
> even in their current form make a case and are
> compelling to investigate. "Isle of Wight Disease' (IOWD)
> came at the almost exact period and exact place
> as Marconi wireless telegraph on the IOW, and
> went with the movement of Marconi VLF to
> shortwave in 1925/ 27. Outbreaks are seen
> in the close vicinity of Marconi wireless
> telegraph transmitters, and the world's first radio
> station was on the Isle of Wight.
>
> There are some specific comparisons to be made that
> I will do a post on. Also, Marconi died from
> angina pectoris, similar to the 'pseudostenocardia'
> of USSR radar troops, and there is evidence he
> may have been the first electrosensitive.
>
> I will do a post, but it will become clear that
> the main way to resolve this issue is for someone
> in the UK to take a trip to Surrey for an afternoon
> or two, in addition to the calls I am making.
> While its too late at night here, there
> is a realistic chance it may be of significant
> benefit if someone could make themselves available
> for an afternoon or two as a coworker. If Marconi's
> wireless telegraph caused the IOWD, we are
> home and hosed for the future, and the
> beekeepers are helped. Or the search may
> prove he was not involved in that issue
> at all.
>
> Many thanks, if someone could muse on this
> possibility for a while I can get back with
> a description.
>
> Rowan C.
>
>
>

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Yolanda LaCombe
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In the midst of CCD, we had to have bees removed. They had infested  
the eaves of the front porch.. They had been there about 10 days. The  
bee remover took out about 30# of bees and wax.

Seriously, they get fed corn syrup instead of their own honey. They  
get put into huge hives instead of their normal sized colony. They  
get carted around the country to pollinate instead of staying in  
their own hives. They are bombarded with EMs.

By the way, there have been no reports of CCD with the organic bee  
keepers.

I think the bees have been here to help us but most of us do nothing  
to help them.

Yolanda

On Jul 8, 2007, at 5:53 AM, Ian Kemp wrote:

>
> 5) The bees are just bloody well tired of being exploited.
>
> LOL ... nice thought Yolanda, brightened up my Sunday.
>
> My godson keeps bees and was telling me that there are about 50,000  
> in a
> hive. If they ever got really unhappy, they could make life quite  
> tricky
> for us! If Alfred Hitchcock was still around I'm sure he could  
> think up a
> film based on this ... The Bees ...
>
> And you could have a Hitchcock double bill - The Birds and The  
> Bees :-)
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On  
> Behalf Of
> Yolanda LaCombe
> Sent: 08 July 2007 03:23
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Colony Collapse Disorder
>
> I have been following this pretty closely. I actually spoke with an
> organic beekeeper recently. (I live in Southern California). She
> suspects the GM crops, most specifically GM corn. It is in the corn
> syrup that the conventional bee growers feed when they have sold all
> the honey. Also in the ethanol used in the US. I think Europe has
> other sources for ethanol.
>
> I actually think it is a variety of causes and that it is not
> necessary to have all the causes present to get the bees to exit a  
> hive.
>
> 1) cell phones and cell phone towers.
>
> 2) GM
>
> 3) insecticides
>
> 4) Varroa mite
>
> 5) The bees are just bloody well tired of being exploited.
>
> The significance of these factors is not necessarily in the order of
> their appearance.
>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> Yolanda
> On Jul 7, 2007, at 7:30 AM, rowster_c wrote:
>
> > I'm operating on my reserves now at this time of
> > night. On beds I have a wooden base futon.
> >
> > Um, I have been going pretty hard at something for
> > a month or so, and may have a mission for anyone
> > in the UK who wants it. If this comes back with a
> > certain result this could be quite important.
> >
> > I have been concentrating hard on the bees'
> > 'colony collapse disorder', and looking at the
> > history. I have gone back to one of the earlier
> > and major appearances, known as the 'Isle of Wight Disease'.
> > To put not to fine a point on it, I got stuck right
> > in to the history. I have written a first draft
> > of this on a beekeeper list that was not that
> > well received but widely read.
> >
> > Straight to it. I don't want to repeat it now, but
> > I have carefully cross- correllated the outbreak of
> > 'Isle of Wight Disease' (the collapse of beehives
> > from 1900/ 04- 1925/ 27) with the original
> > Marconi wireless telegraph in the UK, the US, and
> > around the world. I have found some facts that
> > even in their current form make a case and are
> > compelling to investigate. "Isle of Wight Disease' (IOWD)
> > came at the almost exact period and exact place
> > as Marconi wireless telegraph on the IOW, and
> > went with the movement of Marconi VLF to
> > shortwave in 1925/ 27. Outbreaks are seen
> > in the close vicinity of Marconi wireless
> > telegraph transmitters, and the world's first radio
> > station was on the Isle of Wight.
> >
> > There are some specific comparisons to be made that
> > I will do a post on. Also, Marconi died from
> > angina pectoris, similar to the 'pseudostenocardia'
> > of USSR radar troops, and there is evidence he
> > may have been the first electrosensitive.
> >
> > I will do a post, but it will become clear that
> > the main way to resolve this issue is for someone
> > in the UK to take a trip to Surrey for an afternoon
> > or two, in addition to the calls I am making.
> > While its too late at night here, there
> > is a realistic chance it may be of significant
> > benefit if someone could make themselves available
> > for an afternoon or two as a coworker. If Marconi's
> > wireless telegraph caused the IOWD, we are
> > home and hosed for the future, and the
> > beekeepers are helped. Or the search may
> > prove he was not involved in that issue
> > at all.
> >
> > Many thanks, if someone could muse on this
> > possibility for a while I can get back with
> > a description.
> >
> > Rowan C.
> >
> >
> >
>
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