Chelation and dehydration

Hi everyone,

I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.

Thanks for your feedback.

Cheryl

That could happen on the same day, even.

Especially if you are using zeolite, which seems very dehydrating to me.



On March  9, Cheryl <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is
> possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to
> 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.
 

 IF  you are doing chelation?YES. Lizzie
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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:02:58 +0000
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      Hi everyone,



I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.



Thanks for your feedback.



Cheryl





   
     

   
   






       

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Hi Marc,

Is zeolite a brand name or what? We use the health resource brand. How likely would dehydration occur right away, with an increased dosage, especially in somebody who has been on chelation for years?

Cheryl

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      That could happen on the same day, even.



Especially if you are using zeolite, which seems very dehydrating to me.



On March  9, Cheryl <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is

> possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to

> 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.

 



   
     

   
   






 










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On March  9, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> Is zeolite a brand name or what? We use the health resource brand.

Zeolite is the name of the substance. Brand names would be things
like "Natural Cellular Defense" or "ACZ Nano".

> How likely would dehydration occur right away, with an increased
> dosage, especially in somebody who has been on chelation for years?

Increasing dosage is likely to make things worse.  Not sure if it matters
if you've been doing chelation for days/months/years -- it's all about
the same until you've made some real progress.

Marc

Hi Lizzie,

I forgot to mention it is oral chelation - EDTA. Do you know of anybody this has happened to?

Cheryl

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Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013, 12:24 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
       IF  you are doing chelation?YES. Lizzie

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:02:58 +0000

Subject: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi everyone,



I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.



Thanks for your feedback.



Cheryl



                     



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Hi Marc,

I forgot to mention I am asking about EDTA Oral Chelation. Not sure if that makes a difference.

I am using this for a older man with Alzheimer's. Living very near power lines for many years was most likely a contributing cause to this illness. Anyway, this brand of chelation helped him immensely starting a few years ago. Everyone noticed
 how much healthier he looked and how much his memory improved after about 2-3 months on the maximum dosage of this. When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side -new
 environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then. So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years. He was dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.

I know he needs the chelation or his rapid mental decline will continue without them  But I am afraid the chelation could have caused the dehydration or been a contributing factor.

What should I do next, in your opinion? Your help with this is greatly appreciated as I just don't know what to do now.

Thanks so much.

Cheryl

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      On March  9, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Marc,

> Is zeolite a brand name or what? We use the health resource brand.



Zeolite is the name of the substance. Brand names would be things

like "Natural Cellular Defense" or "ACZ Nano".



> How likely would dehydration occur right away, with an increased

> dosage, especially in somebody who has been on chelation for years?



Increasing dosage is likely to make things worse.  Not sure if it matters

if you've been doing chelation for days/months/years -- it's all about

the same until you've made some real progress.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I know he needs the chelation or his rapid mental decline will continue without them 
> But I am afraid the chelation could have caused the dehydration or been a contributing factor.

Well, this stuff is so tricky and individual that it is impossible to give good advice.  I don't have
enough experience with EDTA to say anything intelligent about it.  :-)  I know that some
people say that you should NOT use EDTA for mercury poisoning, as it can make that
worse.

But I do know that you should not be chelating if you have a fever.

And I do know that just because someone reacted well to something in the past,
that doesn't mean it will always be good for you.  I've discontinued several
supplements that worked great for me initially, but eventually seemed to
be causing more harm than good.

Marc

On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:
> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new
>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.
> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was
> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had
> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.

Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and
whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed
to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)

Marc

Hi Marc,

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, the med techs shouldn't have given Ed the chelation when he had a fever. The problem is that they don't know much about it. But they have expressed a lot of interest in it.

I have never experienced any negative reactions to supplements I am taking, except of course the detox ones as that is part of the process. However, you brought up a good point. Maybe I have experienced negative reactions to some supplements without knowing it. Something to check into.

What supplements helped you at first and then produced negative reactions? I would be very interested to know if you wouldn't mind sharing.

Thanks ever so much for your help with all this.

Cheryl   

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      On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I know he needs the chelation or his rapid mental decline will continue without them 

> But I am afraid the chelation could have caused the dehydration or been a contributing factor.



Well, this stuff is so tricky and individual that it is impossible to give good advice.  I don't have

enough experience with EDTA to say anything intelligent about it.  :-)  I know that some

people say that you should NOT use EDTA for mercury poisoning, as it can make that

worse.



But I do know that you should not be chelating if you have a fever.



And I do know that just because someone reacted well to something in the past,

that doesn't mean it will always be good for you.  I've discontinued several

supplements that worked great for me initially, but eventually seemed to

be causing more harm than good.



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:
> What supplements helped you at first and then produced negative reactions?
> I would be very interested to know if you wouldn't mind sharing.

Well, Cellfood and Microhydrin were both supplements that I considered
to be "life saving" back when I was bedridden and on medical leave
from work.  However, after many years, the Cellfood caused problems
that I assumed were due to its extremely acid nature.  And ironically,
the products that replaced Microhydrin also caused problems that
I assumed were due to its extreme alkalinity.  :-)  With overly  
acidic products, I find myself getting pain (fibromylgia-like).  And
with overly alkaline products, I find myself getting a lot of stomach
bloat that interferes with breathing freely.

So more recently I've replaced both of those products with "ASO"
(advanced stabilized oxygen), which I think has a pH of 7.1.  :-)

Marc

Let me clarify some information here, if I may.

Is this someone else you are using the oral EDTA on?

And if so, is this someone who is elderly, and on prescription

drugs?

From all I have read, if the answers to the above questi, are yes;

I myself would not try to detox someone under those conditions.

 

EDTA will pull out vital minerals, as well as the heavy metals.

Magnesium especially...and Magnesium plays a huge role in

homeostasis.





The nervous and endocrine systems
control homeostasis in the body through feedback mechanisms involving various
organs and organ systems. Examples of homeostatic processes in the body include
temperature control, pH balance, water and electrolyte balance, blood
pressure, and respiration

 

 

And when Magnesium is pulled out of the body, this also disrupts
the Calcium levels, and this will disrupt the body's homeostatic process, such
as water and electrolyte balance.

 

The next issue is the prescription drugs which are adding Fluoride
to the body, because almost all prescription drugs contain fluoride- also
prescription drugs are made with Petro chemicals, all of which are toxic.

 

If this were my friend, I'd do it a much safer way. I 'd be doing
the Magnesium chloride foot soaks, using low doses, and the Iodine- using LOW
doses, and coconut oil (organic) eating a tablesppon of this a day, which will
help stimulate the thyroid.

 

Lizzie

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Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration
















 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Lizzie,



I forgot to mention it is oral chelation - EDTA. Do you know of anybody this has happened to?



Cheryl



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Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013, 12:24 PM



 



IF  you are doing chelation?YES. Lizzie



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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:02:58 +0000



Subject: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi everyone,



I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.



Thanks for your feedback.



Cheryl



                     



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Hi Marc,

Yes, I agree that at least some of the mental deterioration is due to him being in a facility hence not getting all the specialized treatment that I gave him to keep his memory from declining. No doubt about that. Chelation is only one aspect of it.

I am wondering just how much the blood pressure medication he is on is responsible for the mental decline.

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Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 8:18 AM
















 



 


   
     
     
      On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new

>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.

> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was

> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had

> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.



Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and

whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed

to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Hi Lizzie,

No it is not me. I am POA for the man I mentioned who is in a facility for Alz. He is 90 but looks much younger and his physical health is far better than mine. He has better  physical health than most 60 year olds do around here. W

II only go there once a week to see him as I am a volunteer. Are foot soaks once weekly enough? Unfortunately the staff is very busy there and doesn't have a lot of time for extras like this. It is a very low cost place, but the only one he can afford.

They put him on blood pressure meds since he got there. That is the only med he is on now. I am going to give him garlic to control the blood pressure with as I know how very important it is to keep him off pharmaceuticals. This is essential to prevent rapid decline.

--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 1:26 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
     



Let me clarify some information here, if I may.



Is this someone else you are using the oral EDTA on?



And if so, is this someone who is elderly, and on prescription



drugs?



From all I have read, if the answers to the above questi, are yes;



I myself would not try to detox someone under those conditions.



EDTA will pull out vital minerals, as well as the heavy metals.



Magnesium especially...and Magnesium plays a huge role in



homeostasis.



The nervous and endocrine systems

control homeostasis in the body through feedback mechanisms involving various

organs and organ systems. Examples of homeostatic processes in the body include

temperature control, pH balance, water and electrolyte balance, blood

pressure, and respiration



And when Magnesium is pulled out of the body, this also disrupts

the Calcium levels, and this will disrupt the body's homeostatic process, such

as water and electrolyte balance.



The next issue is the prescription drugs which are adding Fluoride

to the body, because almost all prescription drugs contain fluoride- also

prescription drugs are made with Petro chemicals, all of which are toxic.



If this were my friend, I'd do it a much safer way. I 'd be doing

the Magnesium chloride foot soaks, using low doses, and the Iodine- using LOW

doses, and coconut oil (organic) eating a tablesppon of this a day, which will

help stimulate the thyroid.



Lizzie



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From: [hidden email]

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:03:08 -0800

Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi Lizzie,



I forgot to mention it is oral chelation - EDTA. Do you know of anybody this has happened to?



Cheryl



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Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



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Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013, 12:24 PM



IF  you are doing chelation?YES. Lizzie



To: [hidden email]



From: [hidden email]



Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:02:58 +0000



Subject: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi everyone,



I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.



Thanks for your feedback.



Cheryl



                     



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Hi Marc,

Thanks for the info. I had not heard of these products before.

I am glad that you found something that works well for you. I know this requires a lot of experimentation.

Cheryl

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Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 1:16 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What supplements helped you at first and then produced negative reactions?

> I would be very interested to know if you wouldn't mind sharing.



Well, Cellfood and Microhydrin were both supplements that I considered

to be "life saving" back when I was bedridden and on medical leave

from work.  However, after many years, the Cellfood caused problems

that I assumed were due to its extremely acid nature.  And ironically,

the products that replaced Microhydrin also caused problems that

I assumed were due to its extreme alkalinity.  :-)  With overly  

acidic products, I find myself getting pain (fibromylgia-like).  And

with overly alkaline products, I find myself getting a lot of stomach

bloat that interferes with breathing freely.



So more recently I've replaced both of those products with "ASO"

(advanced stabilized oxygen), which I think has a pH of 7.1.  :-)



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Hi Marc,



Sorry the previous got sent before I finished it. Here is the complete version of it:



Yes, I agree that at least some of the mental
deterioration is due to him being in a facility. He is no longer getting all
the specialized treatment that I gave him, prior to that at home, to keep his memory from
declining. No doubt about that. Reducing the chelation is potentially only one aspect of his decline since admittance.  .



I am wondering just how much the blood pressure medication he is on is responsible for the mental decline. They put him on that about 2 weeks after admittance. Prior to that I had it under fairly good control with garlic. He was admitted to the facility at age 90 on not even one pharmaceutical. Overall his physical health is very good. Still walks perfect, for several hours daily there. This is proof of how almost everything can be done with herbal supplements! He is living proof of that for sure, for everybody to see!

I noticed very little decline at all until 2 weeks ago when he didn't recognize me. So the decline wasn't immediately after the reduction in chelation. Rather 2 months after. that, just to clarify. Yes, what I stated previous was rather misleading in this regard.

Sincere thanks for your help with this matter.

Cheryl



--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin
 <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 8:18 AM
















 



 


   
     
     
      On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new

>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.

> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was

> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had

> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.



Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and

whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed

to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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Ah...you are such a sweetie, he is blessed to have you!He has high blood pressure? Very very often this is from Thyroid. www.nutri-meds.com has  Desiccated Porcine Thyroid Health Capsules28.95 for 90 capsules. I have seen so many improve supporting their thyroids.Thyroid controls and regulates soo many functions in the body.And eating raw Coconut oil also helps to stimulate the thyroid gland, and you can also tap on the thymus gland, gently.  (Low blood presure=low adrenas  / High blood pressure-low thyroid)I'm not sure garlic is going to help but it can be a source for both sulfur and natural anti biotics.Sure, its certainly better then nothng, doing a foot soak once a week. The Magnesium Chloride Oil is an awesome wonderful super nutrient for the body.Also can be rubbed on his back, legs...arms...but diluted.  IF the above type is used, dilute it in a spray bottle, 70% filtered water, 30% Magnesium and rub it in.If foot soaking, in a bucket, if using the liquid oil, only 1/4 of a cup in a bucket of water, less if its a small one.If using the Magnesium Bath Flakes, 4 Tablespoons. You are an Angel!
 Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:28:34 -0700
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      Hi Lizzie,



No it is not me. I am POA for the man I mentioned who is in a facility for Alz. He is 90 but looks much younger and his physical health is far better than mine. He has better  physical health than most 60 year olds do around here. W



II only go there once a week to see him as I am a volunteer. Are foot soaks once weekly enough? Unfortunately the staff is very busy there and doesn't have a lot of time for extras like this. It is a very low cost place, but the only one he can afford.



They put him on blood pressure meds since he got there. That is the only med he is on now. I am going to give him garlic to control the blood pressure with as I know how very important it is to keep him off pharmaceuticals. This is essential to prevent rapid decline.



--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration

To: "[hidden email]@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 1:26 PM



 



Let me clarify some information here, if I may.



Is this someone else you are using the oral EDTA on?



And if so, is this someone who is elderly, and on prescription



drugs?



From all I have read, if the answers to the above questi, are yes;



I myself would not try to detox someone under those conditions.



EDTA will pull out vital minerals, as well as the heavy metals.



Magnesium especially...and Magnesium plays a huge role in



homeostasis.



The nervous and endocrine systems



control homeostasis in the body through feedback mechanisms involving various



organs and organ systems. Examples of homeostatic processes in the body include



temperature control, pH balance, water and electrolyte balance, blood



pressure, and respiration



And when Magnesium is pulled out of the body, this also disrupts



the Calcium levels, and this will disrupt the body's homeostatic process, such



as water and electrolyte balance.



The next issue is the prescription drugs which are adding Fluoride



to the body, because almost all prescription drugs contain fluoride- also



prescription drugs are made with Petro chemicals, all of which are toxic.



If this were my friend, I'd do it a much safer way. I 'd be doing



the Magnesium chloride foot soaks, using low doses, and the Iodine- using LOW



doses, and coconut oil (organic) eating a tablesppon of this a day, which will



help stimulate the thyroid.



Lizzie



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From: [hidden email]



Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:03:08 -0800



Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi Lizzie,



I forgot to mention it is oral chelation - EDTA. Do you know of anybody this has happened to?



Cheryl



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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>



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Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013, 12:24 PM



IF  you are doing chelation?YES. Lizzie



To: [hidden email]



From: [hidden email]



Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:02:58 +0000



Subject: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi everyone,



I know a lot of people here are familiar with chelation. I would like to know if it is possible for dehydration to set into a person as soon as almost immediately to 1-2 days within doubling a dosage to the recommended amount.



Thanks for your feedback.



Cheryl



                     



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Cheryl, It is very likely the blood pressure meds are loaded with Flouride.And fluoride is a Neuro toxin!
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      Hi Marc,



Sorry the previous got sent before I finished it. Here is the complete version of it:



Yes, I agree that at least some of the mental

deterioration is due to him being in a facility. He is no longer getting all

the specialized treatment that I gave him, prior to that at home, to keep his memory from

declining. No doubt about that. Reducing the chelation is potentially only one aspect of his decline since admittance.  .



I am wondering just how much the blood pressure medication he is on is responsible for the mental decline. They put him on that about 2 weeks after admittance. Prior to that I had it under fairly good control with garlic. He was admitted to the facility at age 90 on not even one pharmaceutical. Overall his physical health is very good. Still walks perfect, for several hours daily there. This is proof of how almost everything can be done with herbal supplements! He is living proof of that for sure, for everybody to see!



I noticed very little decline at all until 2 weeks ago when he didn't recognize me. So the decline wasn't immediately after the reduction in chelation. Rather 2 months after. that, just to clarify. Yes, what I stated previous was rather misleading in this regard.



Sincere thanks for your help with this matter.



Cheryl



--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin

 <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration

To: [hidden email]

Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 8:18 AM



 



On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:



> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new



>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.



> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was



> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had



> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.



Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and



whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed



to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)



Marc



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Hi Elizabeth,

I assume you are saying that neuro toxins cause mental decline? I do hope that is what is doing it in the regards that I can get him off those blood pressure meds via the garlic. At least it is something I have some control over. They are also very dangerous to elders due to the diuretics in them. No wonder most people decline so fast! Most care providers just listen to their doctors and down they go!

I am very optimistic that the garlic will indeed work.It did before for him. Also my online research revealed that garlic is far more effective in controlling blood pressure than I realized. Just have to get the amount adjusted correctly. Fresh garlic is the best, as opposed to capsules, I read over and over from many different sources.

I am totally against Ed being put on these pharmaceuticals. It is just that because he is in a facility I don't have the control that I had when I took care of him at my home. The doctors call the shots now and the med techs have to follow their orders of course. But the med techs believe in the supplements and are wishing me well with that. Bless their hearts! They have been so very helpful to me, and supportive.

Thanks again. I still will answer your other email later. Need to get some sleep now!

Cheryl


--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode
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Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 4:36 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      Cheryl, It is very likely the blood pressure meds are loaded with Flouride.And fluoride is a Neuro toxin!

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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:59:06 -0700

Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi Marc,



Sorry the previous got sent before I finished it. Here is the complete version of it:



Yes, I agree that at least some of the mental



deterioration is due to him being in a facility. He is no longer getting all



the specialized treatment that I gave him, prior to that at home, to keep his memory from



declining. No doubt about that. Reducing the chelation is potentially only one aspect of his decline since admittance.  .



I am wondering just how much the blood pressure medication he is on is responsible for the mental decline. They put him on that about 2 weeks after admittance. Prior to that I had it under fairly good control with garlic. He was admitted to the facility at age 90 on not even one pharmaceutical. Overall his physical health is very good. Still walks perfect, for several hours daily there. This is proof of how almost everything can be done with herbal supplements! He is living proof of that for sure, for everybody to see!



I noticed very little decline at all until 2 weeks ago when he didn't recognize me. So the decline wasn't immediately after the reduction in chelation. Rather 2 months after. that, just to clarify. Yes, what I stated previous was rather misleading in this regard.



Sincere thanks for your help with this matter.



Cheryl



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From: Marc Martin



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Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



To: [hidden email]



Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 8:18 AM



On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:



> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new



>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.



> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was



> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had



> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.



Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and



whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed



to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)



Marc



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Of course they believe in you!
They see your heart!

Fluoride is a major ingredient in
prescription drugs,

and it IS a neuro toxin, that
means toxic to the brain.

 

Sulfur, which is in garlic
increases cellular oxyidation.

That may be why garlic helps. But
it would have to be

in large doses, you 're right.
And right again in using fresh.

 

The med techs and the dr's work
for Ed. Who is paying the

bills?

Yes, it is much easier to have
the staff be willing to work with

you on this, I agree whole
heartedly.

 

You go girl! Bring the staff some
candies and keep em happy

too! I have two sisters who were
nurses and they always

said; Keep the nurses happy and
they will work with you

even more.

Hard candies like peppermint and
butterscotch!( Enough forall three shifts!)

The staff loves you! And that
means you rule!

Its a win win!

SEnding you love and light and Ed
too!

 

Blessings,

Lizzie


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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:25:34 -0700
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      Hi Elizabeth,



I assume you are saying that neuro toxins cause mental decline? I do hope that is what is doing it in the regards that I can get him off those blood pressure meds via the garlic. At least it is something I have some control over. They are also very dangerous to elders due to the diuretics in them. No wonder most people decline so fast! Most care providers just listen to their doctors and down they go!



I am very optimistic that the garlic will indeed work.It did before for him. Also my online research revealed that garlic is far more effective in controlling blood pressure than I realized. Just have to get the amount adjusted correctly. Fresh garlic is the best, as opposed to capsules, I read over and over from many different sources.



I am totally against Ed being put on these pharmaceuticals. It is just that because he is in a facility I don't have the control that I had when I took care of him at my home. The doctors call the shots now and the med techs have to follow their orders of course. But the med techs believe in the supplements and are wishing me well with that. Bless their hearts! They have been so very helpful to me, and supportive.



Thanks again. I still will answer your other email later. Need to get some sleep now!



Cheryl



--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Elizabeth thode

 <[hidden email]>

Subject: RE: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration

To: "[hidden email]@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 4:36 PM



 



Cheryl, It is very likely the blood pressure meds are loaded with Flouride.And fluoride is a Neuro toxin!



To: [hidden email]



From: [hidden email]



Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:59:06 -0700



Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



Hi Marc,



Sorry the previous got sent before I finished it. Here is the complete version of it:



Yes, I agree that at least some of the mental



deterioration is due to him being in a facility. He is no longer getting all



the specialized treatment that I gave him, prior to that at home, to keep his memory from



declining. No doubt about that. Reducing the chelation is potentially only one aspect of his decline since admittance.  .



I am wondering just how much the blood pressure medication he is on is responsible for the mental decline. They put him on that about 2 weeks after admittance. Prior to that I had it under fairly good control with garlic. He was admitted to the facility at age 90 on not even one pharmaceutical. Overall his physical health is very good. Still walks perfect, for several hours daily there. This is proof of how almost everything can be done with herbal supplements! He is living proof of that for sure, for everybody to see!



I noticed very little decline at all until 2 weeks ago when he didn't recognize me. So the decline wasn't immediately after the reduction in chelation. Rather 2 months after. that, just to clarify. Yes, what I stated previous was rather misleading in this regard.



Sincere thanks for your help with this matter.



Cheryl



--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin



<[hidden email]>



Subject: Re: [eSens] Chelation and dehydration



To: [hidden email]



Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 8:18 AM



On March 10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:



> When I admitted him into a facility last Dec. 20th I cut the dosage in half to be on the safe side - new



>  environment,  reduced EMF, increased stress. His memory started to deteriorate rapidly since then.



> So I increased the chelation to the recommended dosage, where it had been for many years.  He was



> dehydrated 2 days later. I am trying to determine if the chelation caused it or the fever he had



> combined with the diuretics they put him on since last Jan. for high blood pressure.



Also, the deterioration you've noticed could also be due to the change of environment and



whatever new medication he's been put on.  After all, gains from chelation are supposed



to be permanent (at least, they are not supposed to go away immediately after stopping)



Marc



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