Charging RV batteries with dirty electricity...?

Hey everyone,

As some of you may remember, I'm looking at staying for a while at a
farm in my RV when it's warmer, there are still issues with big
powerlines there, etc., though there's no RF measurable in the typical
range - however, assuming I decided to do that -

My RV uses a rechargeable battery. It can be charged with AC power -
now, I noticed that the main farmhouse (which I'm assuming would be
the source of the AC power) has some CFL bulbs in it, which likely
equals dirty electricity. (The farmer is pretty open minded and may
be able to be convinced to ditch 'em, but that's another story).

So - assuming there was dirty electricity in the circuit, and that
circuit supplied AC power to charge my RV's battery - would the dirty
electricity be transferred from the house current to the trailer
battery, and into anything in the trailer which uses the batter (or
simply through the wiring in the RV, regardless of use)?

Usually, I'd charge the battery up, then turn the charger to
trickle-charge mode, just to make sure I've always got juice to run
what I need.

If the above scenario were the case, would installing a Graham Stetzer
filter do the trick? And would it go between the house and the cord
that runs to the battery charger, or between the battery charger and
the cord that runs from the house?

Thanks for your help!

R.ticle One

In a message dated 2/14/2009 12:19:27 A.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

So - assuming there was dirty electricity in the circuit, and that
circuit supplied AC power to charge my RV's battery - would the dirty
electricity be transferred from the house current to the trailer
battery, and into anything in the trailer which uses the batter (or
simply through the wiring in the RV, regardless of use)?



most likely that DP will enter the RV if hooked up to the mains, wires are
antennaes at the end of the day. GS filters will suppress upto a certain range
but will not all frequencies that are likely to offend the ES person as we
are all different.

PUK


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Hmm, so better a GS filter than no GS filter, I suppose? Or a broader
spectrum filter would be better, but I suppose those are considerably
more expensive...

Best yet would be getting rid of the blasted CFL's and using a filter...

R.

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: wires are
> antennaes at the end of the day. GS filters will suppress upto a
certain range
> but will not all frequencies that are likely to offend the ES
person as we
> are all different.
>  
> PUK
>
>
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>

> Hmm, so better a GS filter than no GS filter, I suppose?

Not necessarily... the fields are worse if you are close
to the filter, or in between the filter and the fusebox.

Marc

So, if I were to use one to filter the most common dirty frequencies
when charging the battery (assuming dirty electricity is present), it
would be best to put it where - between the house and the extension
cord that runs to the battery?

R.


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Hmm, so better a GS filter than no GS filter, I suppose?  
>
> Not necessarily... the fields are worse if you are close
> to the filter, or in between the filter and the fusebox.
>
> Marc
>

Dirty electricity, is the phenomenon, that other disturbing frequencies are
present other than 50 or 60 Hz.

A battery is DC current, so there are no frequencies involved. The frequency
ist just 0 Hz.
So it is impossible to transform dirty electricity into a battery.

So, no filter is needed.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "rticleone" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Charging RV batteries with dirty electricity...?

> So, if I were to use one to filter the most common dirty frequencies
> when charging the battery (assuming dirty electricity is present), it
> would be best to put it where - between the house and the extension
> cord that runs to the battery?

Probably at the house, on the same outlet you are using to feed
electricity to the RV.

Or even better, use a filtering power strip at the house, and
plug your cord into that. I use Furman linear filtering
power strips... unfortunately, these are much more expensive
than a Stetzterizer filter (but at least I don't react badly
to them, like I do with the Stetzerizer filters)

Marc

> A battery is DC current, so there are no frequencies involved. The
> frequency ist just 0 Hz.
> So it is impossible to transform dirty electricity into a battery.
>
> So, no filter is needed.

Unless he's reacting to the frequencies on the power cord which
are feeding the battery? But yes, anything downstream from the
battery seems like it should be fine.

Marc

In a message dated 2/14/2009 6:24:55 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Unless he's reacting to the frequencies on the power cord which
are feeding the battery? But yes, anything downstream from the
battery seems like it should be fine.




PUK replies
If you charge from mains AC you are bound to get a frequencies from the
mains that will ride over the battery terminals and onto the RV wiring but if you
charge when you are not in the RV then no problem but if you sit inside and
trckle charge of mains AC you will have the above potential problem.


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In a message dated 2/14/2009 6:17:52 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Or even better, use a filtering power strip at the house, and
plug your cord into that. I use Furman linear filtering
power strips... unfortunately, these are much more expensive
than a Stetzterizer filter (but at least I don't react badly
to them, like I do with the Stetzerizer filters)

Marc



Does not the Stetzer filter only absorb/convert frequncies upto 100hz ? if
so it will not stop common mode and similar RF signals from invading the
wiring, they will simply flow over the filter and on and on....I am thinking from
my own experience with a killer skybox/plasma TV set up that spews out approx
1-2mhz RF modulated off the 50hz which now doubt has stacks of information
on the wave ! add in all the harmonics and so on the noly way to deal with it
is to destroy the scource !


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