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chucka2651

Cars and hot feet

Hi All:
Has anyone addressed the following problem? I bought an old Mercedes 300D because these are thought to be low in emf. Seemed to help. However at times recently (perhaps as a result of warmer weather) my feet feel very warm on the gas pedal and car floor by the driver's seat. Any thoughts on why his would b--and especially on how to shield or otherwise mitigate? A rubber mat? Rubber shoes? Thanks, Chuck

KathyB

Re: Cars and hot feet

Chuck,

Mine are warmer in the car in areas w underground electric cables.

I don't feel much with above ground electric. Not sure what will help that.

My Ford tests w 1 Gauss in the driver's seat.

Kathy
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[eSens] Cars and hot feet

Hi All:

Has anyone addressed the following problem? I bought an old Mercedes 300D because these are thought to be low in emf. Seemed to help. However at times recently (perhaps as a result of warmer weather) my feet feel very warm on the gas pedal and car floor by the driver's seat. Any thoughts on why his would b--and especially on how to shield or otherwise mitigate? A rubber mat? Rubber shoes? Thanks, Chuck

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onceagain

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check the area with an electric field meter, that is the worst area for me because of the cables I can't drive. You could wrap them with shielding, but it needs to be grounded -- which I have no idea if possible in a car?

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> Hi All:
> Has anyone addressed the following problem? I bought an old Mercedes 300D because these are thought to be low in emf. Seemed to help. However at times recently (perhaps as a result of warmer weather) my feet feel very warm on the gas pedal and car floor by the driver's seat. Any thoughts on why his would b--and especially on how to shield or otherwise mitigate? A rubber mat? Rubber shoes? Thanks, Chuck
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BiBrun

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Did you disconnect the alternator and go with solar charging?
That's the biggest thing. Then disconnect all the computers and
the fan (unplug the silver box with the springs under the hood so
blower will still work on defrost).

After that look for remaining magnetic fields and am radio buzz;
magnetized tires are a potential issue at speed.

Bill

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, chucka2651 <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Hi All:
> Has anyone addressed the following problem? I bought an old Mercedes 300D
> because these are thought to be low in emf. Seemed to help. However at
> times recently (perhaps as a result of warmer weather) my feet feel very
> warm on the gas pedal and car floor by the driver's seat. Any thoughts on
> why his would b--and especially on how to shield or otherwise mitigate? A
> rubber mat? Rubber shoes? Thanks, Chuck
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> check the area with an electric field meter, that is the worst area for me because of the cables I can't drive.
> You could wrap them with shielding, but it needs to be grounded -- which I have no idea if possible in a car?

I think "grounding" in a car means attaching a wire to the metal frame of the car. Although I think there
are also straps that can be attached to the bottom of the car and that drag along the street (not sure how
well that works!)

Marc

BiBrun

Re: Cars and hot feet

In terms of electric field shielding, if you are in a faraday cage,
anything connected to the cage is grounded (unless you are worried
about fields on the outside of the cage).

As usual, for RF the ground should be a strap ideally less than 8 times
longer than wide. And you can still get magnetic coupling.

Some people have claimed that grounding with carbon straps to the road is
helpful... the most obvious reason would be it will help prevent
static shocks when you get out of the car, but there could be other effects
like ionization of the air.
Bill

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> > check the area with an electric field meter, that is the worst area for
> me because of the cables I can't drive.
> > You could wrap them with shielding, but it needs to be grounded -- which
> I have no idea if possible in a car?
>
> I think "grounding" in a car means attaching a wire to the metal frame of
> the car. Although I think there
> are also straps that can be attached to the bottom of the car and that
> drag along the street (not sure how
> well that works!)
>
> Marc
>
>

C.a.b. Johnson

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Bill,

I am going to chime in here. I have been having serious problems with currents coming up through the car floor into my feet while driving - most every car I drive. But I find that a 6 cylinder engine affects me 10 times worse than a 4 cylinder engine.

Even the waves coming up through my floor from the Wi-Fi Router in the apartment below me and from the cell tower two blocks away, causes my feet and legs to buzz and pinch. The problem of my reacting to EMF's coming up from the floor board of motor vehicles, airplanes,and my apartment floor, has escalated to the point where my feet feel like they are bleeding and being shocked when I am exposed, especially while driving. Very very painful.

Obviously you know more about car engines than I do. Your suggestions about going with solar charging sounds like a good solution that I had not previously considered. But fooling around under the hood of my car is not a high priority for me right now as I already have too many irons in the fire, nor is spending more money on an expensive solar set up, as I am still paying off my credit card from sheilding materials I bought to make sheilding garments.. Do you have a website that explains how to do this in order to save me time in researching it?

I thought Mu Metal was the option of choice for blocking EMF's from the car floorboard and then grounding it with a Grounding Strap? This would make sense since one's feet are in very close proximity to the EMF field thus receiving an extra concentrated dose which is probably the reason for the stronger reactions experienced while driving. And Mu Metal is the best for blocking the close and strong Magnetic fields - but is it actually effective in this situation? Also, Mu Metal may cost as much or more than a solar set up, and eliminating the source is clearly better than blocking the source.. Can you tell me why Mu Metal on the car floor would not be a good option?

I do not know if this has been discussed before on the list but are there any other easier and/or cheaper options to take? Thanks for any advice you can give.

C. Johnson
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Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 4:22 PM

Did you disconnect the alternator and go with solar charging?
That's the biggest thing. Then disconnect all the computers and
the fan (unplug the silver box with the springs under the hood so
blower will still work on defrost).

After that look for remaining magnetic fields and am radio buzz;
magnetized tires are a potential issue at speed.

Bill

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C.a.b. Johnson

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Bill,

I forgot to say in my last message that the reason I am wondering about an easier cheaper option for blocking or eliminating EMF coming from the automobile floor board is because I drive many different cars - my cars, other people's cars, and I will be selling one of my cars, etc. So it is not possible for me to put a solar set up on every car I drive. What about people who have to drive a car for work or a car that is not theirs? Is there a simple cheap way to bring something with me to blcok the EMF's while driving and then remove it when I leave? Or maybe something not so simple or cheap? What would be your option of choice? Any advce is welcome. Thanks

C. Johnson
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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Cars and hot feet
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Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 4:22 PM

Did you disconnect the alternator and go with solar charging?
That's the biggest thing. Then disconnect all the computers and
the fan (unplug the silver box with the springs under the hood so
blower will still work on defrost).

After that look for remaining magnetic fields and am radio buzz;
magnetized tires are a potential issue at speed.

Bill

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, chucka2651 <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Marc Martin

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> Is there a simple cheap way to bring something with me to blcok the EMF's
> while driving and then remove it when I leave? Or maybe something not
> so simple or cheap?

Well, if you can find an EMF protection device that works for you... I've
used a Quantum Auto-Clear for years (plugs into the 12v cigarette lighter
jack), but anything that's portable enough to go with you can also go
with you in the car...

Marc