Canary's situation - reply to charles, ian, shivani

i am sure that my symptoms are being caused by the transformer 70
metres from my house, and i am convinced that my symptoms worsen in
direct proportion to the current going through it.  

As I said before all the properties 'fed' by this transformer use
night storage heaters which are charged between midnight and 7am,
which i believe is why i have experienced such pain and total
insomnia in recent months. But amazingly since the weather has got
warmer my symptoms at night have improved substantially. When it
gets cold they get bad again. And NO this isn't some form of S.A.D,
i can actually feel that the atmosphere in the bedroom feels less
charged. The more storage heaters that are charged in the properties
around me, the proportionally worse my night-time symptoms are. My
day time symptoms...lethargy, vague depression, have remained
constant. I may be wrong, of course, but i'm pretty sure this is
whats going on.

I guess there's nowt i can do except move though, yes??

btw, magnesium does help sometimes with the legs, but hadn't realised
i should take calcium too. I never know what to do about calcium,
because taking too much is bad too isn't it, so i have to confess i
don't take that much of it.


--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> It does seem to be true that ES is frequency related, but I
wouldn't rule
> out 50 or 60 Hz effects completely. Studies by Dr Cyril Smith in
the UK
> suggested that people were sensitive to a cocktail of frequencies
which
> varied between people, but that the most commonly present was 50
Hz, the
> mains frequency over here. Sue (and many others) certainly benefit
from
> having mains power switched off at night. It could be that it's
harmonics
> or high frequencies having some or most of the effect, but it still
seems
> likely that 50 Hz plays some part.
>  
> Ian
>
> _____  
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of more to do
> > with the transformer close-ish to me than the wires feeding my
house?
> > I have said in a previous mail that i have been in 2 places where
i
> > can have the leccy on day & night with no ill effects, so its not
> > leccy per se that i have a problem with. There's something
warped or
> > more loaded where i'm living. I guess i need to get a gaussmeter,
> > except i kind of don't want to know if the news is really bad!
> >
> > Shivani replies:
> A gaussmeter only reads magnetic fields, and most of them just
read 50
> and 60 Hz. ES symlptoms, however, are FREQUENCY related. In
other
> words, a
> 50 or 60 Hz. magnetic field is not what causes ES. Rather, the
higher
> frequencies of electrical pollution are the culprit. You need a
meter that
> will
> identify high frequency fields, both magnetic and electric.  
> Most utility current carries with it varying degreees of
high
> frequency electrical pollution. The level you have in your
circuits is
> clearly
> shown by the Stetzerizer surgemeter. To locate "stray" high-
frequency
> electrical fields away from wiring, you need a high-frequency-
sensitive
> electric field
> meter.
> Transformers themselves create harmful high frequencies. The
large
> neighborhood transformers were shown by Wertheimer & Leeper to be
highly <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on
> the web.
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I think your explanation sounds very probable. Whether it's the 50 Hz
mains, or associated high frequencies, or magnetic fields associated with
the big coils used to step down the voltage from distribution levels to
local 240/415V, or all three, there are plenty of ways in which a big
transformer could affect you. Certainly our "human meter" Sue feels effects
from them! I don't think she'd live in a house with a substation 70 metres
away - it seems uncomfortably close for constant 24 hour exposure.

On the magnesium/calcium question, it's not totally clearcut. The body
needs to have them both in balance and often it is advocated that both
should be supplemented together. However where magnesium is definitely
deficient and this is affecting the nervous system, Mg supplementation alone
may be better - that's what Sue's specialist has recommended, he
specifically advised against her taking calcium - but that is for her
particular situation and test results, so I guess one must be careful in
applying it to everyone. This particular specialist feels strongly that low
magnesium is linked to all kinds of neurological-type effects including
light, sound and electrical sensitivity. So our next plan is to try an
extended course of magnesium sulphate infusions (with B vitamins) as he
reckons the dosage has been too low to have a permanent effect. That would
fit with Sue's experience that so far it has given short-term relief which
has worn off after a week or two, and the failure of her measured Mg level
to improve significantly.

Ian

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canaryyuk
Sent: 30 May 2006 16:11
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Canary's situation - reply to charles, ian, shivani


i am sure that my symptoms are being caused by the transformer 70
metres from my house, and i am convinced that my symptoms worsen in
direct proportion to the current going through it.

As I said before all the properties 'fed' by this transformer use
night storage heaters which are charged between midnight and 7am,
which i believe is why i have experienced such pain and total
insomnia in recent months. But amazingly since the weather has got
warmer my symptoms at night have improved substantially. When it
gets cold they get bad again. And NO this isn't some form of S.A.D,
i can actually feel that the atmosphere in the bedroom feels less
charged. The more storage heaters that are charged in the properties
around me, the proportionally worse my night-time symptoms are. My
day time symptoms...lethargy, vague depression, have remained
constant. I may be wrong, of course, but i'm pretty sure this is
whats going on.

I guess there's nowt i can do except move though, yes??

btw, magnesium does help sometimes with the legs, but hadn't realised
i should take calcium too. I never know what to do about calcium,
because taking too much is bad too isn't it, so i have to confess i
don't take that much of it.


--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> It does seem to be true that ES is frequency related, but I
wouldn't rule
> out 50 or 60 Hz effects completely. Studies by Dr Cyril Smith in
the UK
> suggested that people were sensitive to a cocktail of frequencies
which
> varied between people, but that the most commonly present was 50
Hz, the
> mains frequency over here. Sue (and many others) certainly benefit
from
> having mains power switched off at night. It could be that it's
harmonics
> or high frequencies having some or most of the effect, but it still
seems
> likely that 50 Hz plays some part.
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of more to do
> > with the transformer close-ish to me than the wires feeding my
house?
> > I have said in a previous mail that i have been in 2 places where
i
> > can have the leccy on day & night with no ill effects, so its not
> > leccy per se that i have a problem with. There's something
warped or
> > more loaded where i'm living. I guess i need to get a gaussmeter,
> > except i kind of don't want to know if the news is really bad!
> >
> > Shivani replies:
> A gaussmeter only reads magnetic fields, and most of them just
read 50
> and 60 Hz. ES symlptoms, however, are FREQUENCY related. In
other
> words, a
> 50 or 60 Hz. magnetic field is not what causes ES. Rather, the
higher
> frequencies of electrical pollution are the culprit. You need a
meter that
> will
> identify high frequency fields, both magnetic and electric.
> Most utility current carries with it varying degreees of
high
> frequency electrical pollution. The level you have in your
circuits is
> clearly
> shown by the Stetzerizer surgemeter. To locate "stray" high-
frequency
> electrical fields away from wiring, you need a high-frequency-
sensitive
> electric field
> meter.
> Transformers themselves create harmful high frequencies. The
large
> neighborhood transformers were shown by Wertheimer & Leeper to be
highly <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on
> the web.
>
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