When your skin burns/stings due to overexposure to emf's is that the nerves burning/stinging? Anyone know the physiology of it all? Loni [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Good question. I do know that when I had that water smart meter, my scalp was burning and felt like someone was pulling my hair at the roots.....and I found that using Peppermint essential oil , 10 drops in a 2 oz glass spray bottle, (I sprayed this on my scalp and rubbed it in) made my head stop burning. Thank you Heaven! Caution: Do NOT get essential oils in eyes. Should this occur, water will not take away the burning. One must use olive oil or coconut oil to rinse eyes. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:26:02 -0700 Subject: [eSens] Burning stinging skin When your skin burns/stings due to overexposure to emf's is that the nerves burning/stinging? Anyone know the physiology of it all? Loni [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > > When your skin burns/stings due to overexposure to emf's is that the nerves burning/stinging? > > Anyone know the physiology of it all? Loni > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Hello Loni, The Swedish researcher Olle Johansson has put forward the theory that the stinging reactions in the skin are due to an immune system response. Basically, blood flow is increased to the affected area and certain immune cells release chemicals such as histamine. These chemicals are usually released to destroy foreign invaders/pathogens, such as viruses or whatever, or to remove damaged or injured tissue. Johansson did tests on electrosensitive people and found that there was a large increase in certain immune cells, such as mast cells, compared to normal people in the controls. These cells could potentially relesse the chemicals that cause the stinging sensations. See here: http://www.icems.eu/docs/Johansson.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10859662 or: http://www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf Sean. |
Thanks Sean; I printed all of these and will read. I'm surprised it's immune system. Thought it would be mylean sheath or something like that. Loni
--- On Tue, 9/20/11, seandaly33 <[hidden email]> wrote: From: seandaly33 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Burning stinging skin To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 8:13 AM --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > > When your skin burns/stings due to overexposure to emf's is that the nerves burning/stinging? > > Anyone know the physiology of it all? Loni > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Hello Loni, The Swedish researcher Olle Johansson has put forward the theory that the stinging reactions in the skin are due to an immune system response. Basically, blood flow is increased to the affected area and certain immune cells release chemicals such as histamine. These chemicals are usually released to destroy foreign invaders/pathogens, such as viruses or whatever, or to remove damaged or injured tissue. Johansson did tests on electrosensitive people and found that there was a large increase in certain immune cells, such as mast cells, compared to normal people in the controls. These cells could potentially relesse the chemicals that cause the stinging sensations. See here: http://www.icems.eu/docs/Johansson.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10859662 or: http://www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf Sean. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Well there could possibly be a nervous system response also. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of autoimmune response that may be affecting the myelin sheath or something similar.The nervous system and immune system do interact with each other in many ways. But the research by Olle Johansson showed definite immunological differences between electrosensitive people and non-electrosensitives in the skin tests, so some immune over-reaction or imbalance may be causing some of the stinging sensation. Sean. --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Thanks Sean; I printed all of these and will read. I'm surprised it's immune system. Thought it would be mylean sheath or something like that. Loni > > --- On Tue, 9/20/11, seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> wrote: > > > From: seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Burning stinging skin > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 8:13 AM > > >  > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote: > > > >  > > When your skin burns/stings due to overexposure to emf's is that the nerves burning/stinging? > >  > > Anyone know the physiology of it all? Loni > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Hello Loni, > > The Swedish researcher Olle Johansson has put forward the theory that the stinging reactions in the skin are due to an immune system response. Basically, blood flow is increased to the affected area and certain immune cells release chemicals such as histamine. These chemicals are usually released to destroy foreign invaders/pathogens, such as viruses or whatever, or to remove damaged or injured tissue. Johansson did tests on electrosensitive people and found that there was a large increase in certain immune cells, such as mast cells, compared to normal people in the controls. These cells could potentially relesse the chemicals that cause the stinging sensations. See here: > > http://www.icems.eu/docs/Johansson.pdf > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10859662 > > or: > > http://www.emrnetwork.org/pdfs/PATPHY_621.pdf > > Sean. > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
I think we are definitely having a over sensitive immune reaction. Mine goes from strong burning to light & back depending on exposure. I have ezcema so there you go. Mine's been in control w quitting milk & wheat, keeping chemicals away. I read MCS & EMF sensitivity can go hand in hand. Maybe w us, emf's are acting as the chemical. I have no history of big time chemical exposures. Other than my husband buying a toilet bowl cleaner, that I had him get rid of b/c I couldn't stand the smell. Reacted to him shampooing the carpet. Carpeting in itself is toxic. But found out we lived by A T & T's base for 4 years, then we moved. That's where the hole thing started for me. Kathy From: seandaly33 <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Burning stinging skin T Well there could possibly be a nervous system response also. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of autoimmune response that may be affecting the myelin sheath or something similar.The nervous system and immune system do interact with each other in many ways. But the research by Olle Johansson showed definite immunological differences between electrosensitive people and non-electrosensitives in the skin tests, so some immune over-reaction or imbalance may be causing some of the stinging sensation. Sean. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Kathy, I also have sensitivities to certain scents. I think you are right about the frequency connection between the emf frequencies which we react to and the chemicals. All matter vibrates at a certain unique frequency, therefore, it would be reasonable to assume that the chemicals which bother us are the same frequency or harmonic as the emf's which bother us. Jim --- In [hidden email], KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > > I think we are definitely having a over sensitive immune reaction. Mine goes from strong burning to light & back depending on exposure.� I have ezcema so there you go.� Mine's been in control w quitting milk & wheat, keeping chemicals away. > > I read MCS & EMF sensitivity can go hand in hand. Maybe w us, emf's are acting as the chemical. I have no history of big time chemical exposures. Other than my husband buying a toilet bowl cleaner, that I had him get rid of b/c I couldn't stand the smell. > > Reacted to him shampooing the carpet. Carpeting in itself is toxic. But found out we lived by A T & T's base for 4 years, then we moved. That's where the hole thing started for me. > > > Kathy > > > From: seandaly33 <seandaly33@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Burning stinging skin > T > > > > Well there could possibly be a nervous system response also. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of autoimmune response that may be affecting the myelin sheath or something similar.The nervous system and immune system do interact with each other in many ways. But the research by Olle Johansson showed definite immunological differences between electrosensitive people and non-electrosensitives in the skin tests, so some immune over-reaction or imbalance may be causing some of the stinging sensation. > > > > Sean. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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