I found another alternative crown. The Bruxzir Crown is all zirconia without any porcelain fused to it. It is stronger than a Lava Crown.
I am still getting the Elite II Porcelain fused to Gold Crown but the Bruxzir looks like a good alternative if you are avoiding Gold for some reason. It looks like it's strong enough for a molar. Steve |
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Have you had the treatment yet?? If not before you do anything google oral galvinism - you will come to some sites, one of which advises something along the lines that if you have teeth with different metals abutting each other and causing the galvinism that you should allow a time lapse of 6 months before replacement. I'm prob not quoting that acurately and wish I could cite the websites exactly but it is enough if you google oral galvinism and have a browse round there. I did that earlier in the week and thought "oh no - it will be too late for me to pass this on to Steve" but hopefully not! Re the Bruxzir crown - is Zirconia safe - i though Sivani posted something on here not so long ago which says that zirconia is a metal? I really don't think it is a good idea to have any metal in your mouth from an antennae point of view. Let me know how you go and I hope it goes well. Me? my crown is giving me all sorts of bother but way things are I can't get to the dentist who needs to deal with it at the moment. Best wishes Steph ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sun, 26 September, 2010 6:27:22 Subject: [eSens] Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown I found another alternative crown. The Bruxzir Crown is all zirconia without any porcelain fused to it. It is stronger than a Lava Crown. I am still getting the Elite II Porcelain fused to Gold Crown but the Bruxzir looks like a good alternative if you are avoiding Gold for some reason. It looks like it's strong enough for a molar. Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi Steph,
The tooth was prepped last wednesday and the permanent will be placed on Oct. 7. I read up on the galvanism and I read about the dissimilar metals issue. I am going to be getting my crowns replaced eventually with the same elite II crowns (perhaps the bruxzir if I need a post). The biggest issue is mixing amalgam with metals and I have none left-no more metal fillings. This one tooth that's getting crowned wouldn't be a good candidate for the bruxzir because there is so little tooth left. The almost pure gold was better for this one. I also read about Huggins replacing nickel based crowns with gold and how the immune system got back to normal after the gold was placed. As for the es I will have to see what happens. It's not an all Gold Crown, its porcelain fused to the gold so hopefully it won't be an issue. Fingers crossed. Zirconium is a metal but zirconia is a ceramic from what I've been reading. The Lava Crown is zirconia fused to porcelain. the Bruxzir is all zirconia so stronger. These are new on the market so who knows what we'll discover about them? I know how you feel about not being able to get to the dentist. I am so tired dealing with this one tooth I'm hoping to take a few months off before replacing another one. Steve --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > Have you had the treatment yet?? If not before you do anything google oral > galvinism - you will come to some sites, one of which advises something along > the lines that if you have teeth with different metals abutting each other and > causing the galvinism that you should allow a time lapse of 6 months before > replacement. I'm prob not quoting that acurately and wish I could cite the > websites exactly but it is enough if you google oral galvinism and have a browse > round there. I did that earlier in the week and thought "oh no - it will be too > late for me to pass this on to Steve" but hopefully not! > > Re the Bruxzir crown - is Zirconia safe - i though Sivani posted something on > here not so long ago which says that zirconia is a metal? I really don't think > it is a good idea to have any metal in your mouth from an antennae point of > view. Let me know how you go and I hope it goes well. Me? my crown is giving me > all sorts of bother but way things are I can't get to the dentist who needs to > deal with it at the moment. > > Best wishes > > Steph > > > > > ________________________________ > From: torch369 <torch369@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sun, 26 September, 2010 6:27:22 > Subject: [eSens] Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown > > Â > I found another alternative crown. The Bruxzir Crown is all zirconia without any > porcelain fused to it. It is stronger than a Lava Crown. > I am still getting the Elite II Porcelain fused to Gold Crown but the Bruxzir > looks like a good alternative if you are avoiding Gold for some reason. It looks > like it's strong enough for a molar. > Steve > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Hi Steve
Hope the prep part went well - would you be able to post me a link perhaps to the Huggins info on using a gold crown and how the immune system got back to normal if you have one? I must check out the Bruxzir crown. I know the feeling you have about repeated dental visits - normally I ongl go once every 6 months for a check up and any treatment I normally need can be done on one visit - this year alone I have had 4 visits - 3 for treatment and I am scheduled to go next week for more - with everything I have going on at the moment my instincts are telling me to hold off with this treatment for now. the teeth where I want the amalgam removed from are sitting in front of what I think is a wisdom tooth which, like an on off volcano, has recently been putting pain and pressure on those teeth in front of it, and then subsided again. Right now I am in a "dormant" phase - no pain and no pressure - but I don;t know whether in these circumstances it is a good idea for the dentist to be trying to work on those 2 teeth right in front of it. I have googled impacted wisdom teeth and I don't thinik it is impacted but I don't now what to do for the best. Meanwhile I also need to have the 2 RC teeth looked at [they are very EMF sensitive] but I need to see a different dentist for that [on mainland UK] and don't know how long it is going to take to get a slot to see him. Good luck with the final crown work - hope it goes well. Let me know what the new one feels like and how it is responding. BW Steph ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, 27 September, 2010 15:48:22 Subject: [eSens] Re: Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown Hi Steph, The tooth was prepped last wednesday and the permanent will be placed on Oct. 7. I read up on the galvanism and I read about the dissimilar metals issue. I am going to be getting my crowns replaced eventually with the same elite II crowns (perhaps the bruxzir if I need a post). The biggest issue is mixing amalgam with metals and I have none left-no more metal fillings. This one tooth that's getting crowned wouldn't be a good candidate for the bruxzir because there is so little tooth left. The almost pure gold was better for this one. I also read about Huggins replacing nickel based crowns with gold and how the immune system got back to normal after the gold was placed. As for the es I will have to see what happens. It's not an all Gold Crown, its porcelain fused to the gold so hopefully it won't be an issue. Fingers crossed. Zirconium is a metal but zirconia is a ceramic from what I've been reading. The Lava Crown is zirconia fused to porcelain. the Bruxzir is all zirconia so stronger. These are new on the market so who knows what we'll discover about them? I know how you feel about not being able to get to the dentist. I am so tired dealing with this one tooth I'm hoping to take a few months off before replacing another one. Steve --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > Have you had the treatment yet?? If not before you do anything google oral > galvinism - you will come to some sites, one of which advises something along > the lines that if you have teeth with different metals abutting each other and > causing the galvinism that you should allow a time lapse of 6 months before > replacement. I'm prob not quoting that acurately and wish I could cite the > websites exactly but it is enough if you google oral galvinism and have a >browse > > round there. I did that earlier in the week and thought "oh no - it will be too > > late for me to pass this on to Steve" but hopefully not! > > Re the Bruxzir crown - is Zirconia safe - i though Sivani posted something on > here not so long ago which says that zirconia is a metal? I really don't think > it is a good idea to have any metal in your mouth from an antennae point of > view. Let me know how you go and I hope it goes well. Me? my crown is giving me > > all sorts of bother but way things are I can't get to the dentist who needs to > deal with it at the moment. > > Best wishes > > Steph > > > > > ________________________________ > From: torch369 <torch369@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sun, 26 September, 2010 6:27:22 > Subject: [eSens] Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown > > Â > I found another alternative crown. The Bruxzir Crown is all zirconia without >any > > porcelain fused to it. It is stronger than a Lava Crown. > I am still getting the Elite II Porcelain fused to Gold Crown but the Bruxzir > looks like a good alternative if you are avoiding Gold for some reason. It >looks > > like it's strong enough for a molar. > Steve > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The biggest issue is mixing amalgam with metals and I have none left-no
> more metal fillings. Yes, although if you any grayish-colored teeth/gums/tongue, then the mercury from your old amalgam fillings has migrated into your body in high concentrations (these are called "amalgam tattoos"). I wonder if some galvanism can result from this? Marc |
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Hi Steph,
Thank you I will let you know. I'm a little concerned because there is some pain radiating into the jawbone at times, but I will take it slow ehn I get the new crown installed. I couldn't find the link to the T Cell comparison but if I do I will post it here. This link has a line from Huggins where it says he prefers Gold combined with Platinum Crowns. Its in the middle somewhere: http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Dentistry/dentist_hal_huggins.htm I guess we'll both know when we're ready for more dental work, after this fiasco i am trying to wait until December to possible change out the opposing Nickel based Crown. Steve --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > Hope the prep part went well - would you be able to post me a link perhaps to > the Huggins info on using a gold crown and how the immune system got back to > normal if you have one? I must check out the Bruxzir crown. I know the feeling > you have about repeated dental visits - normally I ongl go once every 6 months > for a check up and any treatment I normally need can be done on one visit - this > year alone I have had 4 visits - 3 for treatment and I am scheduled to go next > week for more - with everything I have going on at the moment my instincts are > telling me to hold off with this treatment for now. the teeth where I want the > amalgam removed from are sitting in front of what I think is a wisdom tooth > which, like an on off volcano, has recently been putting pain and pressure on > those teeth in front of it, and then subsided again. Right now I am in a > "dormant" phase - no pain and no pressure - but I don;t know whether in these > circumstances it is a good idea for the dentist to be trying to work on those 2 > teeth right in front of it. I have googled impacted wisdom teeth and I don't > thinik it is impacted but I don't now what to do for the best. Meanwhile I also > need to have the 2 RC teeth looked at [they are very EMF sensitive] but I need > to see a different dentist for that [on mainland UK] and don't know how long it > is going to take to get a slot to see him. Good luck with the final crown work - > hope it goes well. Let me know what the new one feels like and how it is > responding. > > BW > > Steph > > > Â > > > > ________________________________ > From: torch369 <torch369@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Mon, 27 September, 2010 15:48:22 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown > > Â > Hi Steph, > The tooth was prepped last wednesday and the permanent will be placed on Oct. 7. > I read up on the galvanism and I read about the dissimilar metals issue. I am > going to be getting my crowns replaced eventually with the same elite II crowns > (perhaps the bruxzir if I need a post). The biggest issue is mixing amalgam with > metals and I have none left-no more metal fillings. > This one tooth that's getting crowned wouldn't be a good candidate for the > bruxzir because there is so little tooth left. The almost pure gold was better > for this one. I also read about Huggins replacing nickel based crowns with gold > and how the immune system got back to normal after the gold was placed. > As for the es I will have to see what happens. It's not an all Gold Crown, its > porcelain fused to the gold so hopefully it won't be an issue. Fingers crossed. > > Zirconium is a metal but zirconia is a ceramic from what I've been reading. The > Lava Crown is zirconia fused to porcelain. the Bruxzir is all zirconia so > stronger. > These are new on the market so who knows what we'll discover about them? > I know how you feel about not being able to get to the dentist. I am so tired > dealing with this one tooth I'm hoping to take a few months off before replacing > another one. > Steve > > --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@> wrote: > > > > Hi Steve > > > > Have you had the treatment yet?? If not before you do anything google oral > > galvinism - you will come to some sites, one of which advises something along > > the lines that if you have teeth with different metals abutting each other and > > > causing the galvinism that you should allow a time lapse of 6 months before > > replacement. I'm prob not quoting that acurately and wish I could cite the > > websites exactly but it is enough if you google oral galvinism and have a > >browse > > > > round there. I did that earlier in the week and thought "oh no - it will be too > > > > late for me to pass this on to Steve" but hopefully not! > > > > Re the Bruxzir crown - is Zirconia safe - i though Sivani posted something on > > here not so long ago which says that zirconia is a metal? I really don't think > > > it is a good idea to have any metal in your mouth from an antennae point of > > view. Let me know how you go and I hope it goes well. Me? my crown is giving me > > > > all sorts of bother but way things are I can't get to the dentist who needs to > > > deal with it at the moment. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: torch369 <torch369@> > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Sun, 26 September, 2010 6:27:22 > > Subject: [eSens] Bruxzir All Zirconia Crown > > > > ÃÂ > > I found another alternative crown. The Bruxzir Crown is all zirconia without > >any > > > > porcelain fused to it. It is stronger than a Lava Crown. > > I am still getting the Elite II Porcelain fused to Gold Crown but the Bruxzir > > looks like a good alternative if you are avoiding Gold for some reason. It > >looks > > > > like it's strong enough for a molar. > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Not sure about that but I guess it's possible. I don't seem to have gray areas but haven't looked that carefully. With this tooth I think I didn't have a choice but to go with the Gold because of the lack of tooth structure left.
Steve --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > The biggest issue is mixing amalgam with metals and I have none left-no > > more metal fillings. > > Yes, although if you any grayish-colored teeth/gums/tongue, then the > mercury from your old amalgam fillings has migrated into your body in > high concentrations (these are called "amalgam tattoos"). I > wonder if some galvanism can result from this? > > Marc > |
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I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of
type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A makes a person more susceptible. If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A among the group. It would also have major diagnostic implications. Mind sharing your blood type? Emil |
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A-Positive. Marc |
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> Not sure about that but I guess it's possible. I don't seem to have gray
> areas but haven't looked that carefully. I had some really gray teeth when my amalgam fillings were removed, but they went back to normal after awhile (years) Marc |
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A postive I ran a similar poll on a fluoroquinolone site. The majority was overwhelmingly A positive Interesting .. --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] blood type? To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 3:27 PM > Mind sharing your blood type? A-Positive. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My blood type is O-
Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Emil at Less EMF Inc" <lessemf@...> wrote: > > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil > |
My blood type is A-. I have most of the symptoms of ES. To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:30:17 +0000 Subject: [eSens] Re: blood type? My blood type is O- Stephen. --- In [hidden email], "Emil at Less EMF Inc" <lessemf@...> wrote: > > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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I don't know for sure (it's totally useless information for the
individual person), but I remember that my mother was an A, so possibly I'm A too. Rixta > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis |
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I'm O+
________________________________ From: Emil at Less EMF Inc <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 2:26:29 PM Subject: [eSens] blood type? I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A makes a person more susceptible. If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A among the group. It would also have major diagnostic implications. Mind sharing your blood type? Emil ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I think I'm A and someone I know with ES is O.
--- In [hidden email], Amy Green <amygreen53@...> wrote: > > I'm O+ > > > > ________________________________ > From: Emil at Less EMF Inc <lessemf@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 2:26:29 PM > Subject: [eSens] blood type? > > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I am A Positive
--- In [hidden email], "Emil at Less EMF Inc" <lessemf@...> wrote: > > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil > |
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B postivie
On 9/27/2010 12:26:29 PM, Emil at Less EMF Inc ([hidden email]) wrote: > I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of > type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type > A > makes a person more susceptible. > > If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type > A > among the group. > It would also have major diagnostic implications. > > Mind sharing your blood type? > > Emil
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I am type O & I am severely EHS. Loni
--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Emil at Less EMF Inc <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Emil at Less EMF Inc <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] blood type? To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 12:26 PM I just received a call from an iridologist who noticed a predominance of type A blood type among her clients with ES. She suspects that blood type A makes a person more susceptible. If that is the case, we should see a higher than normal occurance of type A among the group. It would also have major diagnostic implications. Mind sharing your blood type? Emil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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A negative.
Gary On 9/27/2010 1:27 PM, Marc Martin wrote: >> Mind sharing your blood type? > A-Positive. > > Marc > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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