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Broadband Internet/Top of Obama's Plan!!!!

Loni Rosser







 
Sun Dec  14,  2008 12:14  pm (PST)
Two days ago on CNN news they showed a list of Obama's top 3 plans to bringthe economy back up. The 3rd one was to get Broadband internet on the power lines. This is something that George W. Bush was pushing hard during his 1st term and then the issue seemed to go away.

When broadband is run on the power lines it is an unshielded signal. As I understand it the signal comes into your home on the power line and turns every electrical outlet into a internet link up. The wiring in your home all carries the signal and turns your home into an antenna. It will be a nightmare for all that are sensitive individuals. The articles I read at that time said that even if your own home didn't have the signal that if anyone within 2 blocks of your home did, the sensitive would still have reactions to it.

If you read anything more in the news about this, I hope you will share it with the group so we can do what we can to stop this nightmare before it starts. In the early Bush years, I read an article about a town in Japan thattested broadband over power lines and it was a health nightmare. I can't find that article now.

Anyway, heads up on this subject coming back into the news. Let's try to keep on top of it.




     

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Marc Martin
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> Two days ago on CNN news they showed a list of Obama's top 3 plans to
> bring the economy back up. The 3rd one was to get Broadband internet on
> the power lines.

I just did some searching, and it seems that the campaign promise
was to provide affordable broadband in rural areas. It doesn't have
to be over the power lines -- WiFi could satisfy this goal.

Marc

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skolyer
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I've heard that intelligence agencies are already doing something like this. When they eavesdrop on or spy on someone they pull it out right through the power lines in the house. We probably already have devices in our homes that have spy hardware in them that allow the alphabet soup agencies to listen to and watch us. And it already is going through the power grid.


----- Original Message -----
From: Loni
To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email] ; [hidden email] ; Libbey Kelley ; George Post
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: [eSens] Broadband Internet/Top of Obama's Plan!!!!





Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:14 pm (PST)
Two days ago on CNN news they showed a list of Obama's top 3 plans to bring the economy back up. The 3rd one was to get Broadband internet on the power lines. This is something that George W. Bush was pushing hard during his 1st term and then the issue seemed to go away.

When broadband is run on the power lines it is an unshielded signal. As I understand it the signal comes into your home on the power line and turns every electrical outlet into a internet link up. The wiring in your home all carries the signal and turns your home into an antenna. It will be a nightmare for all that are sensitive individuals. The articles I read at that time said that even if your own home didn't have the signal that if anyone within 2 blocks of your home did, the sensitive would still have reactions to it.

If you read anything more in the news about this, I hope you will share it with the group so we can do what we can to stop this nightmare before it starts. In the early Bush years, I read an article about a town in Japan that tested broadband over power lines and it was a health nightmare. I can't find that article now.

Anyway, heads up on this subject coming back into the news. Let's try to keep on top of it.

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PUK
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In a message dated 12/16/2008 1:35:18 A.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

When broadband is run on the power lines it is an unshielded signal. As I
understand it the signal comes into your home on the power line and turns
every electrical outlet into a internet link up. The wiring in your home all
carries the signal and turns your home


PUK REPLIES - If I react to this stuff like I do with the stray RF signal
from the man over the roads Plasma TV, then I am a dead man walking !


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Steph Smith
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Oh my word - what happens in the US eventually spreads to the UK - who on earth is advising these people???? don't they have scientific and health advisers????



From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Broadband Internet/Top of Obama's Plan!!!!
To: [hidden email], [hidden email], [hidden email], "Libbey Kelley" <[hidden email]>, "George Post" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 8:24 PM








 
Sun Dec  14,  2008 12:14  pm (PST)
Two days ago on CNN news they showed a list of Obama's top 3 plans to bringthe economy back up. The 3rd one was to get Broadband internet on the power lines. This is something that George W. Bush was pushing hard during his 1st term and then the issue seemed to go away.

When broadband is run on the power lines it is an unshielded signal. As I understand it the signal comes into your home on the power line and turns every electrical outlet into a internet link up. The wiring in your home all carries the signal and turns your home into an antenna. It will be a nightmare for all that are sensitive individuals. The articles I read at that time said that even if your own home didn't have the signal that if anyone within 2 blocks of your home did, the sensitive would still have reactions to it.

If you read anything more in the news about this, I hope you will share it with the group so we can do what we can to stop this nightmare before it starts. In the early Bush years, I read an article about a town in Japan thattested broadband over power lines and it was a health nightmare. I can't find that article now.

Anyway, heads up on this subject coming back into the news. Let's try to keep on top of it.

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Marc Martin
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> Oh my word - what happens in the US eventually spreads to the UK - who on
> earth is advising these people???? don't they have scientific and health
> advisers????

Nobody seems to recognize the health problems with broadband over powerlines.
Fortunately, this sort of thing will likely never happen because it causes
radio interference (people with ES and Ham Radio operators share a common
interest!), and also I think it requires more upfront costs than wide
area Wi-Fi (and Wi-Fi is certainly preferable to broadband over powerlines!).

It will certainly never happen in the cities -- there are already plenty
of broadband options available already!

Marc

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charles-4
Some time ago, it was said, that in Finland, where they use PLC a lot, and
in a city in Germany as well as Switzerland, where they did a pilot test, an
outbreak of meningitus occurred.
Probably, because of the opening of the blodd-brain-barrier.

Anyway, Germany and Switserland refrained from working with PLC.

And as Marc says, there are easier ways for obtaining internet.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Broadband Internet/Top of Obama's Plan!!!!


>> Oh my word - what happens in the US eventually spreads to the UK - who on
>> earth is advising these people???? don't they have scientific and health
>> advisers????
>
> Nobody seems to recognize the health problems with broadband over
> powerlines.
> Fortunately, this sort of thing will likely never happen because it causes
> radio interference (people with ES and Ham Radio operators share a common
> interest!), and also I think it requires more upfront costs than wide
> area Wi-Fi (and Wi-Fi is certainly preferable to broadband over
> powerlines!).
>
> It will certainly never happen in the cities -- there are already plenty
> of broadband options available already!
>
> Marc