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I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron were low so this can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started about the same time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a mercury test but this has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes on having mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over timeand potentially reduce the ES. Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to believe that this is not linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, maybe take an antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, I am so confused with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this forever, im just not convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do understand he is just trying to help me. Thanks, Alison |
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I don't recommend detoxing until your intestines are strong and your
liver, kidneys and colon are clear. my 1 cent, Andrew On Oct 12, 2007, at 12:55 PM, ajwelectro wrote: > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and > Iron were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my > hopes on having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up > like this forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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What's the exact value of your mercury reading?
Note that your level may be 'normal' because most every one else in the U.S. also has mercury running through their veins. |
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> Note that your level may be 'normal' because
> most every one else in the U.S. also has mercury > running through their veins. Note that a normal mercury (or any toxin) reading from your bloodstream may also be meaningless because what matters is how much toxins have accumulated in your brain, liver, kidneys, thyroid, etc. This will likely not correlate with blood levels. Marc |
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> One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started about the same
> time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this has come back normal. As I said in another message, just because the test comes back normal doesn't mean that you're in the clear. It could be that the mercury has deposited somewhere in your brain or thyroid, and this is not likely to show up on a blood or urine test unless you are taking something to mobilize it into the bloodstream. > My specialist now suggests that I dont need to detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? You should do both -- a good antioxidant will make you feel better in the short term, while detoxing will make you feel better in the long term (and potentially worse in the short term if you overdo it). Marc |
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Hi Alison,
Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of ES for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various posts about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the most common trigger factors. The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written about whether mercury can cross the "blood-brain barrier". Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your ES; - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, etc etc) before and after the extraction? - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what happened to Sue) - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems with liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a likely cause. Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to get out - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes making things worse. For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in magnesium - I think this is a common experience. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ajwelectro Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Blood Tests - need advice Hi everyone, Im back. I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron were low so this can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started about the same time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a mercury test but this has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes on having mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over time and potentially reduce the ES. Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to believe that this is not linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, maybe take an antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, I am so confused with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this forever, im just not convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do understand he is just trying to help me. Thanks, Alison [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks for all the replies.
My fillings were just removed with no precautions taken, i think I had 4/5 done there and then with no hint it could be potentially dangerous. I feel extremely stupid about this and have regretted this decision greatly since getting the ES. As yet I do not know the Mercury readings but I take all your points on board, these have been posted to me so I will let you know when they arrive. My next question is, how do I detox etc? I understand I need to detox and take antioxidants and apprecvate it will take time but I dont know where to start? I am still only eating organic fruit/veg mainly diet and drinking more water but I need to know what to buy or what I can do. I need to understand how to detox... any advice? Also, I think my immune system is weak but are there any further tests to find out? and how can I strengthen this? I am doing my best with food and vitamins etc. Again, any thoughts greatfully received. I understand you dont have all the answers on here but you have given the best advice and although I am still extremely bad, I am more hopeful, so thanks for this. Alison --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > > Hi Alison, > > Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of ES > for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various posts > about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire > responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the > most common trigger factors. > > The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled > out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of > problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being > undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written > about whether mercury can cross the "blood-brain barrier". > > Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your > ES; > - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? > - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, > etc etc) before and after the extraction? > - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? > - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not > feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what > happened to Sue) > - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems with > liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? > > If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a > likely cause. > > Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; > - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to get > out > - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the > mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes making > things worse. > > For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in > magnesium - I think this is a common experience. > > Ian > > _____ > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > ajwelectro > Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] Blood Tests - need advice > > > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started > about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopeson > having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over time > and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, > maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, > I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this > forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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> My next question is, how do I detox etc?
Well, that varies by the person. Generally speaking, you take substances called "chelators", which are supposed to mobilize toxins that are stored in your body, and put them into the bloodstream and then out of your body via the liver/kidneys/ bladder/colon/skin. While chelating, your body may need to take extra substances to replenish minerals, fight off viruses and yeast, support organs stressed by the detoxification process, etc. There seems to be an umlimited number of ways to detox, and one method that works great for one person may not work at all for another. That is, that person may not see any benefits at all, or they may have a horrible reaction and have to stop. Speaking from my own person experience, I have mostly detoxed via nutritional supplements. I have experimented with hundreds of supplements over the years, and have eventually settled on those things which seemed to have worked the best for me without having horrible side effects. I have improved a great deal, but even after many years I can tell that I still have toxicity related issues, so I'm obviously still missing something (currently am experimenting with liver support supplements). But so far I've had the most success with: Cellfood - general body support, gives me more more energy, reduces allergies, normalizes my saliva pH (I've been too acidic from day one, although I'm better now than I was originally), and allows me to tolerate higher doses of chelators: http://www.luminahealth.com/products/cellfood.htm NDF - general purpose chelator, fewest side effects of the ones I've tried, although tolerance is still fairly low. Hard to say how much this as helped, as chelators are generally a longterm solution. And my health has improved over the longterm: https://www.bioray2000.com/Products.cfm H-Minus - antioxidant, something that actually makes me feel better almost immediately after taking it. Good for when feeling overwhelmed by toxicity, also makes me feel better from extended computer use: http://www.e3live.com/hminus.htm Echinacea Premium liquid - whenever attempting to detox, I inevitably will start getting sick more often (colds, flus). This stops this from happening, and also makes me feel better almost immediately after taking it: http://www.standardprocess.com/display/MediHerbCatalog.spi?ID=273 Agrisept-L - yet another supplement which helps me from getting colds & flus (a huge issue for me when detoxing), or overcoming one when I've already gotten sick: http://www.healthsuperstore.com/p-agrisept-l-1pack.htm Now, certainly I've tried many other supplements that I've liked, but these are the biggies for me. In most cases I've had to be careful with my initial dose, as they typically cause an adverse reaction, but over time I'm able to ramp up to a higher dose. Although with some of these supplements, a smaller than recommended dose is plenty for me (and makes them cheaper to use, which is important since some of these supplements are expensive!) And of course, there are the standard recommendations of drinking lots of clean water, eating organic foods, using body products and cleaners which are free of toxins, getting fresh air and exercise, etc. And of course, if you ask 10 different people on this list what they do to detox, you'll get 10 different answers! Marc |
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Here's a link to the herbs I have taken that have helped my immune
system and helped detox. Nettles are wonderful! Sounds like you are on the right track with good food. I also have used zeolite with unsure success. Ive done 6 bottles in the last five? months and I like it, however can't tell if it really helped. The thing that helps me the most is living with the electricity off at the breakers, then turning on the breaker when I need it. That means knowing your home electricity and which breakers control what. I also minimize my time on the computer and practice "prudent avoidance" whenever possible. Sun, and exercise are also very important. My health has really improved since last november when I discovered my ES. It takes time. Sandi http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/1521888123036.html http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/193rgtnutri.html http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/193rgtimmun.html |
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My iron runs low too. Supplementing won't always fix it, as the body
will try to starve pathogens by keeping iron out of the blood. My iron level improved after avoiding wheat. Other allergens (dairy) might be considered for avoidance, also any mold (which is often in commercial juices I've read). Bill On 10/12/07, ajwelectro <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes > on having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like > this forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Alison, don't feel stupid about the mercury fillings removal. How on earth
were you, or anyone else, to know? But I wonder what we should feel about the various mercury free dentistry websites, not one of which I have ever seen warn about the possible severe side effects of removal. There are a number which advocate doing it in conjunction with detox, but I have not seen any which specifically warn "if you do this without precautions it could severely harm you". The more so as the people who most need amalgam removal, because there are reasonable grounds to suspect mercury may be giving them problems, are the ones most likely to suffer side effects due to weakened immune system etc. The dentist that took out Sue's teeth said there were lots of different opinions in their association as to whether detox protocols were necessary and which were best, and so he didn't use any in particular. In other words, the mercury free dentists don't really seem to know. In my view they get away with it because 90% of removals are for people who are not really very ill or sensitive to mercury (or for cosmetic purposes), so their bodies can cope. Of course this applies even more to conventional dentists extracting mercury fillings because the official view is that this is safe and no precautions are needed. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ajwelectro Sent: 13 October 2007 09:45 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: Blood Tests - need advice Thanks for all the replies. My fillings were just removed with no precautions taken, i think I had 4/5 done there and then with no hint it could be potentially dangerous. I feel extremely stupid about this and have regretted this decision greatly since getting the ES. As yet I do not know the Mercury readings but I take all your points on board, these have been posted to me so I will let you know when they arrive. My next question is, how do I detox etc? I understand I need to detox and take antioxidants and apprecvate it will take time but I dont know where to start? I am still only eating organic fruit/veg mainly diet and drinking more water but I need to know what to buy or what I can do. I need to understand how to detox... any advice? Also, I think my immune system is weak but are there any further tests to find out? and how can I strengthen this? I am doing my best with food and vitamins etc. Again, any thoughts greatfully received. I understand you dont have all the answers on here but you have given the best advice and although I am still extremely bad, I am more hopeful, so thanks for this. Alison --- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > > Hi Alison, > > Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of ES > for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various posts > about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire > responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the > most common trigger factors. > > The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled > out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of > problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being > undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written > about whether mercury can cross the "blood-brain barrier". > > Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your > ES; > - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? > - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, > etc etc) before and after the extraction? > - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? > - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not > feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what > happened to Sue) > - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems > liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? > > If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a > likely cause. > > Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; > - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to get > out > - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the > mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes making > things worse. > > For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in > magnesium - I think this is a common experience. > > Ian > > _____ > > From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com Of > ajwelectro > Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 > To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com > Subject: [eSens] Blood Tests - need advice > > > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes on > having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over time > and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, > maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, > I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this > forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks everyone, I will buy some of the items suggested and give them a go.Do you
think there is a chance you can take too many suppliments? Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my face disappear or am I stuck with this? my cheeks are pretty much numb all the time now. I am genuinely greatful for all this help and advice... thanks again. Alison --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > > Alison, don't feel stupid about the mercury fillings removal. How on earth > were you, or anyone else, to know? > > But I wonder what we should feel about the various mercury free dentistry > websites, not one of which I have ever seen warn about the possible severe > side effects of removal. There are a number which advocate doing it in > conjunction with detox, but I have not seen any which specifically warn "if > you do this without precautions it could severely harm you". The more soas > the people who most need amalgam removal, because there are reasonable > grounds to suspect mercury may be giving them problems, are the ones most > likely to suffer side effects due to weakened immune system etc. > > The dentist that took out Sue's teeth said there were lots of different > opinions in their association as to whether detox protocols were necessary > and which were best, and so he didn't use any in particular. In other > words, the mercury free dentists don't really seem to know. In my view they > get away with it because 90% of removals are for people who are not really > very ill or sensitive to mercury (or for cosmetic purposes), so their bodies > can cope. Of course this applies even more to conventional dentists > extracting mercury fillings because the official view is that this is safe > and no precautions are needed. > > Ian > > _____ > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > ajwelectro > Sent: 13 October 2007 09:45 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] Re: Blood Tests - need advice > > > > Thanks for all the replies. > > My fillings were just removed with no precautions taken, i think I had 4/5 > done there and > then with no hint it could be potentially dangerous. I feel extremely stupid > about this and > have regretted this decision greatly since getting the ES. > > As yet I do not know the Mercury readings but I take all your points on > board, these have > been posted to me so I will let you know when they arrive. > > My next question is, how do I detox etc? I understand I need to detox and > take > antioxidants and apprecvate it will take time but I dont know where to > start? I am still only > eating organic fruit/veg mainly diet and drinking more water but I need to > know what to > buy or what I can do. I need to understand how to detox... any advice? > > Also, I think my immune system is weak but are there any further tests to > find out? and > how can I strengthen this? I am doing my best with food and vitamins etc. > Again, any > thoughts greatfully received. > > I understand you dont have all the answers on here but you have given the > best advice and > although I am still extremely bad, I am more hopeful, so thanks for this. > > Alison > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp" > <ianandsue.kemp@> wrote: > > > > Hi Alison, > > > > Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of > ES > > for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various > posts > > about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire > > responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the > > most common trigger factors. > > > > The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled > > out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of > > problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being > > undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written > > about whether mercury can cross the "blood-brain barrier". > > > > Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your > > ES; > > - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? > > - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, > > etc etc) before and after the extraction? > > - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? > > - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not > > feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what > > happened to Sue) > > - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems > with > > liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? > > > > If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a > > likely cause. > > > > Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; > > - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to > get > > out > > - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the > > mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes > making > > things worse. > > > > For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in > > magnesium - I think this is a common experience. > > > > Ian > > > > _____ > > > > From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com > [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf > Of > > ajwelectro > > Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com > > Subject: [eSens] Blood Tests - need advice > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > > were low so this > > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started > > about the same > > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > > mercury test but this > > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes > on > > having > > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time > > and potentially > > reduce the ES. > > > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > > believe that this is not > > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, > > maybe take an > > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, > > I am so confused > > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like > this > > forever, im just not > > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > > understand he is just > > trying to help me. > > > > Thanks, > > Alison > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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> Do you think there is a chance you can take too many supplements? You'll find a wide range of opinions on this question. I know that I've been to one nutritionist who hates to have people taking more than 5 different supplements at a time, while I've been to another who will put you on 20 - 30 at a time! Having tried both philosophies for extended periods of time, I have found that if I want to actively be chelating and yet still be able to work and not get colds and flus all the time, then I need to take more than 5 - 10 supplements. But maybe I haven't found that one perfect supplement that will magically take care of all of my problems... :-) (also, I'm sure that the foods you eat are also a factor here) > Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my > face disappear or am I stuck with this? I would hope that it could go away if you find the right supplement/therapy. But I can't offer any advice, as this is not a symptom that I've ever had. I think I read that there was someone with MS who had numbness in her hands/arms that went away slowly while taking Natural Cellular Defense. Marc |
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marc you mentioned in a previous post that you use the sony bravia for
a screen is there any reason for this i currently use a led projector but still get burning...also i have just been done the road to use the photocopier and my eyes are killing me now pete On 16 Oct 2007, at 15:02, Marc Martin wrote: > ajwelectro wrote: > > Do you think there is a chance you can take too many supplements? > > You'll find a wide range of opinions on this question. I know > that I've been to one nutritionist who hates to have people > taking more than 5 different supplements at a time, > while I've been to another who will put you on 20 - 30 at > a time! Having tried both philosophies for extended periods > of time, I have found that if I want to actively be chelating > and yet still be able to work and not get colds and flus > all the time, then I need to take more than 5 - 10 supplements. > But maybe I haven't found that one perfect supplement that > will magically take care of all of my problems... :-) (also, > I'm sure that the foods you eat are also a factor here) > > > Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my > > face disappear or am I stuck with this? > > I would hope that it could go away if you find the right > supplement/therapy. But I can't offer any advice, as this > is not a symptom that I've ever had. I think I read that > there was someone with MS who had numbness in her hands/arms > that went away slowly while taking Natural Cellular Defense. > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> marc you mentioned in a previous post that you use the sony bravia for
> a screen is there any reason for this I would have just gotten another CRT monitor (used), but there is a wall behind my desk, and I wanted to increase my distance to the monitor, which pretty much limited me to a flat screen LCD. Historically I have had terrible reactions to LCD monitors, but I figured if I had an oversized monitor (26" in this case) with low resolution (HDTV's in this size only have 768 x 1360 resolution), then I could easily see it from 3 - 4 feet away. Also, as it turns out, this Sony Bravia must not be putting out the same nasty frequencies as other LCD monitors that I've tried, as I have noticed hardly anything from it (although I do have several EMF devices in place and it is also over 3 feet away). Also, being picky about image quality, the Sony Bravia is a good choice in that area as well... :-) Marc |
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In a message dated 10/16/2007 6:10:45 PM GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Also, as it turns out, this Sony Bravia must not be putting out the same nasty frequencies as other LCD monitors that I've tried, as I have noticed hardly anything from it (although I do have several EMF devices in place and it is also over 3 feet away). Whats it like with an AM radio ? p uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Also, as it turns out, this Sony Bravia must not be putting out
> the same nasty frequencies as other LCD monitors that I've > tried, as I have noticed hardly anything from it (although > I do have several EMF devices in place and it is also over 3 > feet away). > > Whats it like with an AM radio ? I'll check this, and compare it to the 15" LCD monitor that my wife uses (and that I couldn't stand when I originally bought it for myself) Marc |
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I have measured two types of Sony Bravia.
One was good, the other bad. Sharp is not bad either. Beware of Philips with its backlighting. I checked a Samsung, which had two nasty fields on the right side. I am awaiting a new lowfrequency meter, with 3D measurement heads, and which also displays the frequencies om the object. Yes, I am still wating, so I cannot say much about it, at the moment. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 19:10 Subject: Re: [eSens] monitor choice >> marc you mentioned in a previous post that you use the sony bravia for >> a screen is there any reason for this > > I would have just gotten another CRT monitor (used), but there is a wall > behind my desk, and I wanted to increase my distance to the monitor, > which > pretty much limited me to a flat screen LCD. Historically I have had > terrible reactions to LCD monitors, but I figured if I had an oversized > monitor (26" in this case) with low resolution (HDTV's in this size only > have 768 x 1360 resolution), then I could easily see it from 3 - 4 feet > away. > > Also, as it turns out, this Sony Bravia must not be putting out > the same nasty frequencies as other LCD monitors that I've > tried, as I have noticed hardly anything from it (although > I do have several EMF devices in place and it is also over 3 > feet away). > > Also, being picky about image quality, the Sony Bravia is > a good choice in that area as well... :-) > > Marc > > |
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so charles what would you recommend ?
what do you personally use ? thanks pete On 16 Oct 2007, at 18:19, charles wrote: > I have measured two types of Sony Bravia. > One was good, the other bad. > > Sharp is not bad either. > > Beware of Philips with its backlighting. > I checked a Samsung, which had two nasty fields on the right side. > > I am awaiting a new lowfrequency meter, with 3D measurement heads, > and which > also displays the frequencies om the object. > Yes, I am still wating, so I cannot say much about it, at the moment. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Bitdefender > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 19:10 > Subject: Re: [eSens] monitor choice > > >> marc you mentioned in a previous post that you use the sony bravia > for > >> a screen is there any reason for this > > > > I would have just gotten another CRT monitor (used), but there is a > wall > > behind my desk, and I wanted to increase my distance to the monitor, > > which > > pretty much limited me to a flat screen LCD. Historically I have had > > terrible reactions to LCD monitors, but I figured if I had an > oversized > > monitor (26" in this case) with low resolution (HDTV's in this size > only > > have 768 x 1360 resolution), then I could easily see it from 3 - 4 > feet > > away. > > > > Also, as it turns out, this Sony Bravia must not be putting out > > the same nasty frequencies as other LCD monitors that I've > > tried, as I have noticed hardly anything from it (although > > I do have several EMF devices in place and it is also over 3 > > feet away). > > > > Also, being picky about image quality, the Sony Bravia is > > a good choice in that area as well... :-) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 10/16/2007 6:16:35 PM GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: I'll check this, and compare it to the 15" LCD monitor that my wife uses (and that I couldn't stand when I originally bought it for myself) Marc Thanks Marc, that would be interesting, I sit 1.4m away and still get ill, the am radio clearly shows a signal albeit quietrt evan from this distance. It will be intresting to try the LEP screens in the future Sony just released a small one, but I am not expecting any miracles with anything mass produced that has electricty as its source of fuel ! p uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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