Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation

Hi All,

I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.

This makes sense to me, because given high enough emfs, everyone has the
reaction that we do to emfs. It's just that it only takes a fraction of the
amount of emf exposure to trigger the same reaction in us.

Also, just want to note that I have never substained any head injury. I was
poisoned with a pesticide which is a neurotoxin. I think that must have
been what gave me ES.

Best regards,

Taliesen


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There is a woman , who has done a lot of work on highly sensitive people  , who as others have noted , tend to be sensitive across all spectrums. They tend to be the empaths , the intuits , the healers etc. The skills they have developed tend to eb more evolutionary than psychological , it isnot a choice , it is a physical or biological manifestation as you have described. Although HSP can modify the world around them , they tend to need very definite conditions

When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

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From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 2 January, 2009, 6:04 AM






Hi All,

I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.

This makes sense to me, because given high enough emfs, everyone has the
reaction that we do to emfs. It's just that it only takes a fraction of the
amount of emf exposure to trigger the same reaction in us.

Also, just want to note that I have never substained any head injury. I was
poisoned with a pesticide which is a neurotoxin. I think that must have
been what gave me ES.

Best regards,

Taliesen

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There is a woman , who has done a lot of work on highly sensitive people (  , who as others have noted , tend to be sensitive across all spectrums. They tend to be the empaths , the intuits , the healers etc. The skills they have developed tend to eb more evolutionary than psychological , it isnot a choice , it is a physical or biological manifestation as you have described. Although HSP can modify the world around them , they tend to need very definite conditions

When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Fri, 2/1/09, Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 2 January, 2009, 6:04 AM






Hi All,

I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.

This makes sense to me, because given high enough emfs, everyone has the
reaction that we do to emfs. It's just that it only takes a fraction of the
amount of emf exposure to trigger the same reaction in us.

Also, just want to note that I have never substained any head injury. I was
poisoned with a pesticide which is a neurotoxin. I think that must have
been what gave me ES.

Best regards,

Taliesen

On 12/30/08, javamdnss@aol. com <javamdnss@aol. com> wrote:
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There is a woman , who has done a lot of work on highly sensitive people  , who as others have noted , tend to be sensitive across all spectrums. They tend to be the empaths , the intuits , the healers etc. The skills they have developed tend to eb more evolutionary than psychological , itis not a choice , it is a physical or biological manifestation as you havedescribed. Although HSP can modify the world around them , they tend to need very definite conditions in wich to thrive , exist.
 
http://www.highlysensitivepeople.com/

When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Fri, 2/1/09, Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 2 January, 2009, 6:04 AM






Hi All,

I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.

This makes sense to me, because given high enough emfs, everyone has the
reaction that we do to emfs. It's just that it only takes a fraction of the
amount of emf exposure to trigger the same reaction in us.

Also, just want to note that I have never substained any head injury. I was
poisoned with a pesticide which is a neurotoxin. I think that must have
been what gave me ES.

Best regards,

Taliesen

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I was diagnosed w/fibro years ago, before I knew anything about this ES
stuff. Even people whispering would get to me. I couldn't go out to eat because
normal table conversation sounded like they were screaming. My friend who also
has fibro would complain her husband was "tying his tie too loudly". I
believe the two are connected, but most of the time I am able to handle things
better now.
Amy

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I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.




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Hi, Taliesen,
 
Yes, I too react to noises, but now not as badly as before when I was extremely ill (before going gf/sf/ addressing nutrient deficiencies due to celiac and killing off bad bugs in my system).  I  did have a head injury twice, but I became severely ES and MCS after a pesticide incident, also.  (Tho I have experienced other electrical symptoms and oddities all my life which might have been linked to the head injuries.)  It was interesting tho that when the pesticide incident first happened, I was again really noise sensitive for some time.   Never thought of the connection till you mentioned it.
 
Thanks for the info,
Diane

--- On Thu, 1/1/09, Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Taliesen Waters <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 2:04 PM






Hi All,

I think there are also non-metaphysical explanations for overstimulation
upon being with people. I had that long before I had ES and I am convinced
the two are related.

I am also hypersensitive to noise in general, actually experiencing noise
levels others tolerate quite well as painful and overwhelming. This is a
medical condition called hyperacusis.

My doctor thinks that both the hyperacusis and the ES are caused because the
level at which neurons fire in response to stimulation is way too low.
There is a threshold of external stimulation neccessary before neurons will
fire. In people with brain trauma (which according to a qEEG, I have), that
threshold can be so low that the person reacts to electrical stimulation
and/or other kinds of stimulation in a way that a person with a non-injured
brain would react to *much* higher levels of input.

This makes sense to me, because given high enough emfs, everyone has the
reaction that we do to emfs. It's just that it only takes a fraction of the
amount of emf exposure to trigger the same reaction in us.

Also, just want to note that I have never substained any head injury. I was
poisoned with a pesticide which is a neurotoxin. I think that must have
been what gave me ES.

Best regards,

Taliesen

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> Yes, I too react to noises, but now not as badly as before when I was
> extremely ill

These sensitivities can certainly come and go -- about a year ago,
I had zero noise sensitivities. Then I had a bad reaction to an
ionic footbath, and had very bad noise sensitivity for many
months. Now I'm back to zero sensitivity. Hard to say what made
the difference, as I've been taking about 20 different supplements
per day during the past year in order to undo the damage of the
footbath. I suspect the most important part was some adrenal
and thyroid supplements I'm taking.

Marc

Interesting Marc,
 
I take these supplements too and I needed more of them when I was first pesticided.  After a couple months I was ES but the noise problem abated. You may be onto something here that really helps the noise.  OK, I really need to shut up now and allow others to talk!  I see a too long list ofmy responses.  lol
 
Thanks,
Diane

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Being around people/overstimulation-another explanation
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:35 PM






> Yes, I too react to noises, but now not as badly as before when I was
> extremely ill

These sensitivities can certainly come and go -- about a year ago,
I had zero noise sensitivities. Then I had a bad reaction to an
ionic footbath, and had very bad noise sensitivity for many
months. Now I'm back to zero sensitivity. Hard to say what made
the difference, as I've been taking about 20 different supplements
per day during the past year in order to undo the damage of the
footbath. I suspect the most important part was some adrenal
and thyroid supplements I'm taking.

Marc
 














     

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