Backbox by Assurances

> Hello
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> more and more car assurance companies are being promoting a discount  
> based on tracing of the car's utilization by means a 'blackbox' that  
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> I got that this tool records (via GPS) all the car's movement.
> I don't bore of my privacy's, the most important is the discount's  
> perntage !
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> BUT; the question is: how does it work ? will it transmitt  
> continously wirelessly the recorderd information ? Or these data  
> would be donloaded via hard cable only after a car accident or  
> yearly at conntract review ?
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> Giorgio
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> Hi Giorgio,
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> My understanding is that if report your car as stolen they can find it immediately with the black box. This means the black box is transmitting wireless frequencies constantly. A quick internet search appears to validate my assumption.
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> In my search I found this interesting page: www.comparethebox.com/black-box-insurance which says…
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> How Is This Data Used?
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> Although few insurance companies yet offer Telematics insurance, the information is used in a variety of ways depending on the scheme. Choosing the right scheme for your driving pattern is important to minimise your costs. Features offered include:
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> • Making heavy charges for young drivers between 11pm and 6am - particularly at weekends
> • Charging higher mileage rates for use during rush hours
> • Charging higher mileage rates on particularly hazardous routes
> • Charging lower mileage rates for those who avoid sharp braking and keep to speed limits
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> So it's not just about tracking the location of your car, but about evaluating your driving habits. Perhaps some black boxes are not as sophisticated, but this verifies that the box is transmitting wireless frequencies all the time.
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> Does it transmit even when the car is turned off? My guess is yes. Why do I think this? Because gas "smart" meters in my area have a battery which allows them to broadcast information for years.
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> I have to assume that in addition to the close range radiation you get while driving your car, that you also get radiated while your car sits in your driveway! Your car becomes a traveling cell tower radiating every living thing in and around your car including your neighbors in their homes.
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> I suggest you NOT, NOT, NOT even consider getting this black box!
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> I'm wondering WHAT frequency or frequencies the black box uses, and what POWER the device has. If they're as powerful as a Light Radio, we're screwed, b/c these things have a couple mile range & are as powerful as a cell tower, but the size of a small box. I've been talking about Light Radios for months, but only recently did someone on the Fb group even notice it. I think it's what is unofficially being called "5G" and isn't in many places yet, but they're suing it in "intellistreets" or whatever it's called, so there are ppl. who have to completely avoid certain towns b/c there's a Light Radio on every phone pole (total overkill, I know). Let's hope the car black boxes are NOT as powerful as that. Anyone know how to find out? I can't be on computer for long enuf. 
> Love & blessings,Elysia
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> --- On Sun, 3/25/12, giorgio cinciripini <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:
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> From: giorgio cinciripini <CINCIRIPINI@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Backbox by Assurances
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> Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 2:35 PM
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> I found one company that adverties this contract's oprion and I asked technical details:  we'll see.
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> --- In [hidden email], "melissascotthasmail" <melissascotthasmail@> wrote:
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> > My understanding is that if report your car as stolen they can find it immediately with the black box. This means the black box is transmitting wireless frequencies constantly. A quick internet search appears to validate my assumption.
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> > • Charging higher mileage rates for use during rush hours
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> Hello
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> I got answer by the GENERTEL Assurance.
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> Data are transmitted once a day during the night via GSM/GRPS (if it cannot be done, it'll be arranged as soon as at the morning when the strenght of signoal is good ).
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> There's some updating of the Portal between 10 and 13 am: it is not clear if a transiossion is involved.
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> In conclusion, if the car is located in an area/place open to the GSM's signal, the tranmission is done during the night, so any problem for a ES person ...
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> Giorgio
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> --- In [hidden email], Elysia Drew <necessejamais@> wrote:
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> > I'm wondering WHAT frequency or frequencies the black box uses, and what POWER the device has. If they're as powerful as a Light Radio, we're screwed, b/c these things have a couple mile range & are as powerful as a cell tower, but the size of a small box. I've been talking about Light Radios for months, but only recently did someone on the Fb group even notice it. I think it's what is unofficially being called "5G" and isn't in many places yet, but they're suing it in "intellistreets" or whatever it's called, so there are ppl. who have to completely avoid certain towns b/c there's a Light Radio on every phone pole (total overkill, I know). Let's hope the car black boxes are NOT as powerful as that. Anyone know how to find out? I can't be on computer for long enuf. 
> > Love & blessings,Elysia
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> > --- On Sun, 3/25/12, giorgio cinciripini <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
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> > From: giorgio cinciripini <CINCIRIPINI@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Backbox by Assurances
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> > --- In [hidden email], "melissascotthasmail" <melissascotthasmail@> wrote:
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> > > My understanding is that if report your car as stolen they can find it immediately with the black box. This means the black box is transmitting wireless frequencies constantly. A quick internet search appears to validate my assumption.
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> > > In my search I found this interesting page: www.comparethebox.com/black-box-insurance which says…
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> > > Although few insurance companies yet offer Telematics insurance, the information is used in a variety of ways depending on the scheme. Choosing the right scheme for your driving pattern is important to minimise your costs. Features offered include:
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> > > • Charging higher mileage rates for use during rush hours
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> > > • Charging lower mileage rates for those who avoid sharp braking and keep to speed limits
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> > > So it's not just about tracking the location of your car, but about evaluating your driving habits. Perhaps some black boxes are not as sophisticated, but this verifies that the box is transmitting wireless frequencies all the time.
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