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Auto Immune and Thyroid

sctdh
Just want to clarify one point for those who like to quibble and argue, theautoimmune thyroid has been known as Hashimoto's Disease. The orginal contributions claimed about this newer author is to break that down into a moredetailed understanding.

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Re: Auto Immune and Thyroid

Andrew McAfee
My wife has Hashimoto's and she believes as does Dr. Mercola that  
there is a Gluten Intolerance/auto-immune disease as well as mercury.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/Many-Symptoms-Suggest-Sluggish-Thyroid.aspx

"Gluten causes autoimmune responses in many people and can be  
responsible for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, a common autoimmune thyroid  
condition. Approximately 30 percent of the people with Hashimoto’s  
thyroiditis have an autoimmune reaction to gluten, and it usually goes  
unrecognized.

How this works is, gluten can cause your gastrointestinal system to  
malfunction, so foods you eat aren’t completely digested (aka Leaky  
Gut Syndrome[7]). These food particles can then be absorbed into your  
bloodstream where your body misidentifies them as antigens --  
substances that shouldn’t be there -- our body then produces  
antibodies against them.

These antigens are similar to molecules in your thyroid gland. So your  
body accidentally attacks your thyroid. This is known as an autoimmune  
reaction or one in which your body actually attacks itself.

Testing can be done for gluten and other food sensitivities, which  
involves measuring your IgG and IgA antibodies[8]."





Andrew






On Jan 10, 2010, at 8:21 PM, sctdh wrote:

> Just want to clarify one point for those who like to quibble and  
> argue, the autoimmune thyroid has been known as Hashimoto's Disease.  
> The orginal contributions claimed about this newer author is to  
> break that down into a more detailed understanding.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Re: Auto Immune and Thyroid

evie15422
Hi, Andrew,

Great job explaining this! Yes, thyroid problems abound among people with celiac disease (caused by gluten intolerance). I was hypothyroid and it actually normalized as a result of going gf and soy-free! It is interesting,tho, that ALL auto-immune diseases abound among celiacs, not just thyroid problems. It is because gluten causes the body to excrete a hormone (I believe it is called zonulin) which temporarily opens the tight junctions in the gut (this is how the gut permeability gets started). Glutens also open tjs in, at least, some of the organs--it is known they affect the blood brain barrier, the lungs, the liver, and highly suspected, that they open the tjs of the heart. Even normal people have this reaction to eating glutens,but among people with gluten intolerances, tjs open for a much longer timeperiod and sometimes the tjs refuse to close altogether.  

I didn't know if you knew this about other auto-immune diseases being connected to eating glutens, but you really did a great job describing how glutens do damage. They act the same way thru-out the body. I have auto-immuneTMJ, for instance. My jaw surgeons went in to repair my left jaw joint and found there was nothing there but dead tissue--it could not be repaired. They said it looked like the remains of a building that had been "fire-bombed"--it was all gray and full of debris. This was due to my body attacking glutens in or near my jaw joint. This is also how it is I have so many diagnoses. I have auto-immune diseases upon auto-immune diseases.

Just thought you might be interested, if you do not already know this.
Take care, Andrew. My best to you and your wife,
Diane


--- On Mon, 1/11/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Auto Immune and Thyroid
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 8:38 AM
> My wife has Hashimoto's and she
> believes as does Dr. Mercola that 
> there is a Gluten Intolerance/auto-immune disease as well
> as mercury.
>
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/Many-Symptoms-Suggest-Sluggish-Thyroid.aspx
>
> "Gluten causes autoimmune responses in many people and can
> be 
> responsible for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, a common
> autoimmune thyroid 
> condition. Approximately 30 percent of the people with
> Hashimoto’s 
> thyroiditis have an autoimmune reaction to gluten, and it
> usually goes 
> unrecognized.
>
> How this works is, gluten can cause your gastrointestinal
> system to 
> malfunction, so foods you eat aren’t completely digested
> (aka Leaky 
> Gut Syndrome[7]). These food particles can then be absorbed
> into your 
> bloodstream where your body misidentifies them as antigens
> -- 
> substances that shouldn’t be there -- our body then
> produces 
> antibodies against them.
>
> These antigens are similar to molecules in your thyroid
> gland. So your 
> body accidentally attacks your thyroid. This is known as an
> autoimmune 
> reaction or one in which your body actually attacks
> itself.
>
> Testing can be done for gluten and other food
> sensitivities, which 
> involves measuring your IgG and IgA antibodies[8]."
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2010, at 8:21 PM, sctdh wrote:
>
> > Just want to clarify one point for those who like to
> quibble and 
> > argue, the autoimmune thyroid has been known as
> Hashimoto's Disease. 
> > The orginal contributions claimed about this newer
> author is to 
> > break that down into a more detailed understanding.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     [hidden email]
>
>
>


     

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Zonulin

Andrew McAfee
Hi Diane,
I cannot take credit for Mercola's language/quote from his article. It  
sounds like you know a lot about this...more than me.
Mercola described zonulin as a protein if I recall.
I do have a hunch that somewhere along the line, vaccine ingredients  
have played a role in creating the auto-immune environment which  
predisposes one to celiac.
I can't prove it yet though Dr. Carley has her research
www.drcarley.com
that proves vaccines cause "all auto-immune" diseases through the over  
stimulation of the immune system.

The short story is no vaccines and no gluten. I am doing well with the  
first one but not as good as my wife on the second.
Little by little...
Thank you for the info.
Andrew

"Leaky Gut" Intestinal Protein Linked to Autoimmune Disorders
"Researchers report that a protein called zonulin appears to be  
responsible for maintaining the protective barrier in the small  
intestine, and that high levels of this protein are associated with  
disruptions in the barrier that allow foreign substances into the  
body's tissues."
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/05/14/leaky-gut.aspx


On Jan 12, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Evie wrote:

> Hi, Andrew,
>
> Great job explaining this! Yes, thyroid problems abound among  
> people with celiac disease (caused by gluten intolerance). I was  
> hypothyroid and it actually normalized as a result of going gf and  
> soy-free! It is interesting, tho, that ALL auto-immune diseases  
> abound among celiacs, not just thyroid problems. It is because  
> gluten causes the body to excrete a hormone (I believe it is called  
> zonulin) which temporarily opens the tight junctions in the gut  
> (this is how the gut permeability gets started). Glutens also open  
> tjs in, at least, some of the organs--it is known they affect the  
> blood brain barrier, the lungs, the liver, and highly suspected,  
> that they open the tjs of the heart. Even normal people have this  
> reaction to eating glutens, but among people with gluten  
> intolerances, tjs open for a much longer time period and sometimes  
> the tjs refuse to close altogether.
>
> I didn't know if you knew this about other auto-immune diseases  
> being connected to eating glutens, but you really did a great job  
> describing how glutens do damage. They act the same way thru-out  
> the body. I have auto-immune TMJ, for instance. My jaw surgeons  
> went in to repair my left jaw joint and found there was nothing  
> there but dead tissue--it could not be repaired. They said it  
> looked like the remains of a building that had been "fire-bombed"--
> it was all gray and full of debris. This was due to my body  
> attacking glutens in or near my jaw joint. This is also how it is I  
> have so many diagnoses. I have auto-immune diseases upon auto-
> immune diseases.
>
> Just thought you might be interested, if you do not already know this.
> Take care, Andrew. My best to you and your wife,
> Diane
>
>
> --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [eSens] Auto Immune and Thyroid
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 8:38 AM
>> My wife has Hashimoto's and she
>> believes as does Dr. Mercola that
>> there is a Gluten Intolerance/auto-immune disease as well
>> as mercury.
>>
>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/01/02/Many-Symptoms-Suggest-Sluggish-Thyroid.aspx
>>
>> "Gluten causes autoimmune responses in many people and can
>> be
>> responsible for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, a common
>> autoimmune thyroid
>> condition. Approximately 30 percent of the people with
>> Hashimoto’s
>> thyroiditis have an autoimmune reaction to gluten, and it
>> usually goes
>> unrecognized.
>>
>> How this works is, gluten can cause your gastrointestinal
>> system to
>> malfunction, so foods you eat aren’t completely digested
>> (aka Leaky
>> Gut Syndrome[7]). These food particles can then be absorbed
>> into your
>> bloodstream where your body misidentifies them as antigens
>> --  
>> substances that shouldn’t be there -- our body then
>> produces
>> antibodies against them.
>>
>> These antigens are similar to molecules in your thyroid
>> gland. So your
>> body accidentally attacks your thyroid. This is known as an
>> autoimmune
>> reaction or one in which your body actually attacks
>> itself.
>>
>> Testing can be done for gluten and other food
>> sensitivities, which
>> involves measuring your IgG and IgA antibodies[8]."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 8:21 PM, sctdh wrote:
>>
>>> Just want to clarify one point for those who like to
>> quibble and
>>> argue, the autoimmune thyroid has been known as
>> Hashimoto's Disease.
>>> The orginal contributions claimed about this newer
>> author is to
>>> break that down into a more detailed understanding.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>