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Re: Massage Tools Have to Go

gypsysageq
I use a manual massage-thingee.  It's a long rod, in an S-shape.  On it are various knobs and posts, designed to reach various areas of the body.  Examples:  a couple of knobs are spaced to accommodate the neck/spine, another couple are spaced to be used across the sacrum.  The posts help to focus deep pressure.  It's amazing how much self-massage can be accomplished!

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Back-10100000003-Buddy/dp/B0006VJ6TO/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1326216755&sr=1-1

Here is a link to a book that helps with referred pain--problems that originate in one place but manifest in another, such as a tender muscle attachment that causes cramping at the other end of the muscle.  

http://www.amazon.com/Trigger-Point-Therapy-Workbook-Self-Treatment/dp/1572243759/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326216848&sr=1-1

The physiologist who wrote the book has an excellent understanding of how muscles and tendons are positioned in the body.  He also invented a massage tool similar to the Body Buddy; I don't like it or the short BB as well as the long BB.  On Amazon, do a search for Body Buddy, and you'll see several types.

Here's to Health,
Sage~~

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> What does anyone think?  Do the benefits outweigh the risks of using the compression massage tools when I have sore muscles?
> C. Johnson



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Sensitive gauss meter -- Re: [eSens] Massage Tools Have to Go

Kumara
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Marc Martin wrote thus at 22:58 10/01/2012:
>For example, I still use a hair dryer,  I'm sure the milligauss
>reading is very high, but I don't notice any problems from it.
>Certainly it helps that the exposure times are low.

The distance is a big factor too.

Speaking of I'm looking for a sensitive (and affordable) gauss meter. The present one I recently got (CellSensor) is less sensitive than my body; meaning: At the same distance, I can feel the effect of ELF radiation, while the meter registers nothing.

Can anyone guide me on this?

Btw, for RF, I'm very happy with Cornet ED-7: sensitive and affordable.

kb

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BiBrun
You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
or at least .01.
AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
adding a large external probe.  There are websites for
how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Marc Martin wrote thus at 22:58 10/01/2012:
> >For example, I still use a hair dryer, I'm sure the milligauss
> >reading is very high, but I don't notice any problems from it.
> >Certainly it helps that the exposure times are low.
>
> The distance is a big factor too.
>
> Speaking of I'm looking for a sensitive (and affordable) gauss meter. The
> present one I recently got (CellSensor) is less sensitive than my body;
> meaning: At the same distance, I can feel the effect of ELF radiation,
> while the meter registers nothing.
>
> Can anyone guide me on this?
>
> Btw, for RF, I'm very happy with Cornet ED-7: sensitive and affordable.
>
> kb
>
>  
>


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Kumara
Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
>You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
>or at least .01.

Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high" sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.


>AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
>adding a large external probe.  There are websites for
>how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
>Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
>(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
>0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).

You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?

kb

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BiBrun
It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
protective case.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
>
> >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
> >or at least .01.
>
> Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
> sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
>
>
> >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
> >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
> >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
> >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
> >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
> >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
>
> You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
>
> kb
>
>  
>


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Re: Sensitive gauss meter -- Re: [eSens] Massage Tools Have to Go

David Henry
Your using the wrong tool to measure "radiation" electromagnetic is not the
same as non-ionising

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
> protective case.
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
> >
> > >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
> > >or at least .01.
> >
> > Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
> > sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
> >
> >
> > >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
> > >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
> > >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
> > >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
> > >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
> > >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
> >
> > You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
> >
> > kb
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Sensitive gauss meter -- Re: [eSens] Massage Tools Have to Go

David Henry
   - You measuring magnetic/electric flux!

   - *10−9–10−8 gauss*: the human brain magnetic field
   - *0.31–0.58 gauss*: the Earth's magnetic
field<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field> on
   its surface
   - *25 gauss*: the Earth's magnetic field in its
core<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_core>
   [3] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-2>
   - *50 gauss*: a typical refrigerator
magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator_magnet>
   - *100 gauss*: a small iron <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron>
magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet>
   - *2000 gauss*: a small neodymium-iron-boron (NIB)
magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neodymium_magnet>
   - *15,000-30,000 gauss*: a medical magnetic resonance
imaging<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging>
    electromagnet <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet>
   - *1012–1013 gauss*: the surface of a neutron
star<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star>
   [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-3>
   - *4×1013 gauss*: the quantum electrodynamic
threshold<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamic_threshold>
   - *1015 gauss*: the magnetic field of some newly created
magnetars<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetar>
   [5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-sciam_article-4>
   - *1017 gauss*: the upper limit to neutron star magnetism, no known
   object in the universe can generate a stronger magnetic
field[5]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-sciam_article-4>


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, David Henry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Your using the wrong tool to measure "radiation" electromagnetic is not
> the same as non-ionising
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
>> protective case.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
>> >
>> > >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
>> > >or at least .01.
>> >
>> > Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
>> > sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
>> >
>> >
>> > >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
>> > >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
>> > >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
>> > >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
>> > >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
>> > >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
>> >
>> > You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
>> >
>> > kb
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
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Kumara
I'm glad we have some knowledgeable people in this area here.

Dave and Bill and others who might know too, speaking of flux, I notice that when I place the probe just next to an active speaker (such as on a phone handset), the reading is quite low. However, when I move the probe, sideways or away from it, the reading spikes. What is it measuring then?

Actually, even if I were to move the probe in the air is a very radiation-free zone, the reading goes up too. I have to wave it very, very vigorously though. :-)

kb

David Henry wrote thus at 01:27 13/01/2012:

>   - You measuring magnetic/electric flux!
>
>   - *10−9­10−8 gauss*: the human brain magnetic field
>   - *0.31­0.58 gauss*: the Earth's magnetic
>field<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field> on
>   its surface
>   - *25 gauss*: the Earth's magnetic field in its
>core<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_core>
>   [3] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-2>
>   - *50 gauss*: a typical refrigerator
>magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator_magnet>
>   - *100 gauss*: a small iron <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron>
>magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet>
>   - *2000 gauss*: a small neodymium-iron-boron (NIB)
>magnet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neodymium_magnet>
>   - *15,000-30,000 gauss*: a medical magnetic resonance
>imaging<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging>
>    electromagnet <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet>
>   - *1012­1013 gauss*: the surface of a neutron
>star<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star>
>   [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-3>
>   - *4×1013 gauss*: the quantum electrodynamic
>threshold<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamic_threshold>
>   - *1015 gauss*: the magnetic field of some newly created
>magnetars<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetar>
>   [5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-sciam_article-4>
>   - *1017 gauss*: the upper limit to neutron star magnetism, no known
>   object in the universe can generate a stronger magnetic
>field[5]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss_(unit)#cite_note-sciam_article-4>
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM, David Henry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Your using the wrong tool to measure "radiation" electromagnetic is not
>> the same as non-ionising
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
>>> protective case.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
>>> <[hidden email]>wrote:
>>>
>>> > **
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
>>> >
>>> > >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
>>> > >or at least .01.
>>> >
>>> > Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
>>> > sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
>>> > >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
>>> > >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
>>> > >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
>>> > >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
>>> > >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
>>> >
>>> > You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
>>> >
>>> > kb
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: Sensitive gauss meter -- Re: [eSens] Massage Tools Have to Go

charles-4
There are magnetic AC and DC fields, which require separate different meters.

Take for instance the steel belts inside tyres from motor cars.
After a while they become magnetic, but DC.
With an AC meter you cannot measure anything.
But as soon as you let the tyre rrotating or turning around freely, in the position of the meter, these DC fields become AC fields, and you can measure
AC fiels. As soon as you stop rotating, your AC meter stops showing values.

The magnet of a speaker is a DC magnetic field, so it does not show any value on an AC magnetic field meter.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kumara Bhikkhu
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:17 AM
  Subject: Re: Sensitive gauss meter -- Re: [eSens] Massage Tools Have to Go


  I'm glad we have some knowledgeable people in this area here.

  Dave and Bill and others who might know too, speaking of flux, I notice that when I place the probe just next to an active speaker (such as on a phone handset), the reading is quite low. However, when I move the probe, sideways or away from it, the reading spikes. What is it measuring then?

  Actually, even if I were to move the probe in the air is a very radiation-free zone, the reading goes up too. I have to wave it very, very vigorously though. :-)

  kb



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Kumara
In reply to this post by BiBrun
I'm interested in the "websites for how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf)." I believe you're referring to this one: http://home.comcast.net/~kaliber/magsite/gmantmod.html. It's meant for Gauss Master only.

CellSensor is a whole lot easier to modify as the probe is external, connected to the meter with a jack. I need to know what's in the probe though. It's sealed shut, and I don't feel like breaking it just to find out.

I know I'm sensitive to both AC and DC. So, any suggestions anyone?

kb

Bill Bruno wrote thus at 00:49 13/01/2012:

>It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
>protective case.
>
>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
><[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
>>
>> >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
>> >or at least .01.
>>
>> Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
>> sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
>>
>>
>> >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
>> >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
>> >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
>> >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
>> >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
>> >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
>>
>> You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
>>
>> kb
>>
>>  
>>
>
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David Henry
It's simply measuring the strength of the magnets. NOT "radiation"

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu <[hidden email]>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I'm interested in the "websites for how to modify others yourself (linked
> from lessEmf)." I believe you're referring to this one:
> http://home.comcast.net/~kaliber/magsite/gmantmod.html. It's meant for
> Gauss Master only.
>
> CellSensor is a whole lot easier to modify as the probe is external,
> connected to the meter with a jack. I need to know what's in the probe
> though. It's sealed shut, and I don't feel like breaking it just to find
> out.
>
> I know I'm sensitive to both AC and DC. So, any suggestions anyone?
>
> kb
>
> Bill Bruno wrote thus at 00:49 13/01/2012:
>
> >It's a long coil around a ferrite rod, sometimes in a pcb tube or other
> >protective case.
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Kumara Bhikkhu
> ><[hidden email]>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill Bruno wrote thus at 12:02 11/01/2012:
> >>
> >> >You probably want something that can go down to .002 milligauss,
> >> >or at least .01.
> >>
> >> Yes! My current one has a needle to indicate 0-5 mg (when set to "high"
> >> sensitivity). At .01, it's as good as nothing on the meter.
> >>
> >>
> >> >AlphaLabs has been known to modify their tri-field meter by
> >> >adding a large external probe. There are websites for
> >> >how to modify others yourself (linked from lessEmf).
> >> >Ideally you'd want something frequency weighted
> >> >(which the tri-field is) and able to up to high frequency, like
> >> >0.5 MHz (which the tri-field doesn't).
> >>
> >> You mean those antenna-like thingy that seems to be made out of PCB?
> >>
> >> kb
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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evie15422
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Hi, Joyce,

Sorry this is so long in the coming, but you write: "I am too sensitive for all these things, and of course, I end up with
migraines. Then I must stop with what I was doing for a few days, and
back to square one. I have a closet full of supplements which would take much longer than a normal person would do to take supplements."

Joyce, I was the same when I started supplements and therapies.  A nutritionist I had told me to repack all my supplements into empty capsules to make them tolerable.  I sometimes packed 1 regular sized capsule into 10 or 20 capsules to get started.  Then each week or so I slowly worked higher, as I came to tolerate the substance better. 


Also, I came to realize that sometimes the reason I was not tolerating a particular supplement was I needed other particular nutrients with it.  For instance, if you are having problems with magnesium, taking other electrolytes with it can help.  Or you might need more of one particular electrolyte.  Same with B vits...  If you are taking a large amount of one B vitamin for a particular reason, it works best to also take a multi-B vitamin with it.


Sometimes I found I did not tolerate something because it detoxed particular compounds my liver was unable to deal with.  In that case, I took more supplements for helping my liver detox phases.  For instance, B12, B6, and molybdenum help detox sulfur compounds.  The following is a good source for info on liver detox phases:


http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/liver-detox-pathways/


http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/sulfates_sulfation_feingold/

Good luck,
Diane


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 From: Joyce Soos <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Appetite changes
 
I get nice and warm in front of the computer! This person is as sensitive as me. I tried a small dose of the magnesium lotion again today, and came down with a migraine. That is always the symptom I get when I have taken too much of a supplement. I would like to try the iodine in the belly button.
Please let me know what are your ideas with enemas, coffee enemas, and detoxing with herbals. I am too sensitive for all these things, and of course, I end up with migraines. Then I must stop with what I was doing for a few days, and back to square one. I have a closet full of supplements which would take much longer than a normal person would do to take supplements.

Joyce

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Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:02 PM
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Kathy,
I'm saying it is quite possible..To all the doubting Thomas's "can I prove it?" Yes, if you had a blood sugar checker, that would prove it was happening. I don't have one, but I have lots of experience with low adrenals, in myself and in others. I can also give you an example of what happened with a friend- who is Diabetic,- who upon information from the book- YOUR THYROID AND HOW TO KEEP IT HEALTHY, by Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatsfield. He says many diabetics can be helped by taking both Armour, natural thyroid, and supporting the adrenal glands. She took the heavy duty adrenal support (Hydrocortisone) and called me in tears of JOY because this medication nearly NORMALIZED her blood sugar levels! That was two years ago...now she takes the Holy Basil Tulsi by organic India...(she loved the Hydrocortisone but hates taking prescription meds...she also follows a verys strict no sugar/no grains diet these days- BUT has NOT given up either her cordless tele or her
cell phone, and has an electrical fence on her property. I have measured her fields and they are quite HIGH. She also cannot wear a watch- it STOPS when she wears it. She also gets sick when going into stores like Home Depot, Meijers, ect...but doesn't want to address that she may be ES and or MCS. She does eat all organic though. And she does take/use both the Iodine and the Magnesium Chloride Oil. It took her 3-6 mths to be able to take the Iodine in water. She is very sensitive to many supplements, and started using the Iodine in her belly button, twice a day...gradually upping the dose. She also had to start with small tiny doses of Chlorella and Spirulena. Candida is also a factor for her. Were she to reduce the wireless and electric fence, she'd no doubt be helping herself even more. She also had SEVERE panic/anxiety attacks, and the thryoid support plus the Bach's natural rescue remedy helped severely reduce the heart palpitations/anxiety
symptoms.

If you DO get colder in front of the computer (and its not due to open window, ect) then this is your immune system being down cycled. It is under stress...from
emf's. Do you get this feeling cold also, from other sources of emf?
Maybe put a sweater on...and go slowly when upping your Iodine.
Lizzie

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:43:29 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Appetite changes

Are you saying my blood sugar drops in front of comptuer & TV screens b/c of their emf's?

I am taking iodine twice a day. I may up the amount. You may be right, I do get colder in front of the computer.

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Appetite changes

Appetite going up- Can be blood sugar dropping.

This can be the cortisol levels going up, translation: adrenal stress.

When dizziness is also seen- this is classic low adrenals. And in many cases, if adrenals are stressed, thyroid will also be stressed, as these two glands work together. When one goes down, the other jumps in to help. If they both go down, the immune system will struggle greatly.

Higher temps can mean literal body temp being raised from radiation. It can also mean the thryoid has gone into over drive, raising the body's temp. Typically, if your morning temp is lower then 97.6 (or there abouts) this is UNDER active thyroid. Normal temps (first thing in the morning) should be around 98.7 or close. But if first morning temps are higher then 98.6- this can be OVER active thryoid, or sign the body is fighting off some kind of infection. I know many people who have OVER active thryoids, are always too warm...Either way, if its not infection, and the body's normal temps are either too low, or too high, this usually means the thryoid is under stress.

As it is challenging, to say the least, for people to find areas with no wireless radiation....to see if body temp normalizes, the next thing would be to try supporting both the thyroid and adrenal glands. to see if by supporting these glands, the temps normalize.

Vit C can help the adrenals; however many products are made in China, and therefore- may contain toxic elements. Vit C from: camu camu, rosehips, acacia are other alternatives.

Iodine -very much an essential mineral for the thryoid / adrenals suggestions: See: attached info.

Lizzie

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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:25:30 -0800

Subject: [eSens] Appetite changes

Have any of you notices changes in appetite since 4G? We seem to have a bigger appetite.

It increases if spend time in front of our computer or TV. Anyone know the reason?

If I'm in a building with a smart meter I loose my appetite & have to eat just a little. Over the holidays I noticed relatives eating a lot more than they used to. Someone brought the topic up.

Kathy

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