Alittle confused about a devise that is to strong.

Hi Again,

O.K. , If you all do not mind I still have questions. When you say a product is to strong, is this meaning that it is stopping the EMF to fast?? How would this differ from turning off all the electricty to the home at night, wouldn't that give you the same effect?? I truly do not understand exactly how the products stops the EMF's. That is something I will read up on more.But let's say you go camping, and you are totally without power, that would be the same reaction you would get with a strong devise taking away the EMF's or am I not understanding somethig right.


Again, I am sorry for not knowing more before I joined this club, you all seem so extremely versed in all this, I feel actually embarrased to ask questions. What I want to do is get the weaker plug in the wall unit from earthcalm, and not say anything to my family, to see if anyone feels sicky. If we do, then I will turn it on so many hours a day and work up to all day 24/7.

Thank you all for your help, I am trying to understand as fast as I can, sometimes I think the EMF are really messing with my mind.

Another thing I want to talk about is I have a brother in law who has extrememly bad RLS, restless leg syndrome. SO bad he cannot sleep. He lives justa block from a huge tower. I am wondering if this could be causing it, Dr.s do not seem to know why. I am going to try and get something printed for him to understand the culprit maybe right next to his home!

Thanks..and may your EMF's is limited and you all are in good health!

> O.K. , If you all do not mind I still have questions. When you say a
> product is to strong, is this meaning that it is stopping the EMF to
> fast?? How would this differ from turning off all the electricty to
> the home at night, wouldn't that give you the same effect??

The various EMF protection devices work under a variety of principles.
Unfortunately, I don't think any of them will give you the same effect
as being on a campground in the middle of nowhere. The Earthcalm units
seem to add an additional energy to the environment that helps your body
cope with the existing EMFs. It does not reduce the EMFs in the
environment at all. The Quantum Products devices transit an energy that
transforms the EMFs into something less bothersome to people. The
effect may show up on specialized high-frequency meters, but not on a
typical low-cost consumer meter. There are also people who shield their
walls and windows with special materials -- this will reduce the EMFs
coming from the outside the house, but EMFs inside the house are still
an issue. There are also the Stetzer plugin filter and other power line
filters that remove high frequency EMFs from your power lines, but this
won't have much effect on electronics in your house that are generating
their own EMFs.

So you see, there are a lot of options available, and some people will
combine various options.

> What I want to do is get the weaker plug in the wall unit from earth
> calm, and not say anything to my family, to see if anyone feels sicky.
> If we do, then I will turn it on so many hours a day and work up to
> all day 24/7.

That is certainly a way to start. I recall when I did this experiment
with the Earthcalm plugin years ago. It was actually my cats who had
the most noticeable reaction. On day 1, one of our older more sedate
cats was running around like a kitten, full of energy that we hadn't
seen in many years. However, by day 3, the cats looked like they all
felt awful, and started peeing all over the carpet and furniture. So I
gave up on the Eartcalm plugin just so I didn't have to live in a house
smelling like cat urine! (and we repeated this experiment several times
until my wife was convinced that this was really happening).

And the above sort of reaction is a good indicator for a type of product
that might prove helpful in the longrun -- initially you'll feel great,
then this is followed by fatigue. You feel great because your body is
no longer being harmed by EMFs as much. You then feel fatigued because
your body is now taking the opportunity to dump years of stored toxins.
Feeling too bad however may cause damage to already weakened organs,
particularly the adrenals and kidneys. And you might even want to
consider taking supplements to help support these organs, and
potentially other things, like the liver, the colon, etc.

So when I say that a device is "too strong", that probably is simply an
indicator that the device is causing some sort of unpleasant
mobilization of toxins that were already present in your body.
Alternately, the device may just be plain bad for you (just because a
manufacturer claims that their products are healthy doesn't necessarily
mean that they are healthy for you specifically)

Marc

SO much light is shed on this topic for me, Thank you Marc. Now I guess I have to decide the best product, and that will be difficult. I want to finda good company, but yet, I do not want to purchase a unit for 150.00 then it makes us sick. SO I need to research now. I had no idea so much information is on this subjuect, wow. It is almost mind boggling for a beginner.

Thank you very much for your input.

Barb

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

Barb,

There are numerous devices that are on the market that claim to stop emf and they are worthless. Even the ones based on scientific fact have little or no effect on people that are very sensitive to EMF. Some people that arementally ill blame their condition on EMF
(and EMF can cause you to become mentally ill too)

Most people that come to the conclusion that they are ill because of EMF try everything and then see what works for them. It's a trial and error. Even George Carlo, one of the most noted EHS researchers feels he got scammed by Bio Pro, the most famous producer of products that are claimed to mitigate EMF. So the public is very confused.

This board is a place to share your experiences for things that have helpedyou overcome the illness. Asking what will work for you is like asking a doctor to proscribe a remedy for allergies without taking an allergy scratch test first.

Getting away from anything that transmits wireless data is the first step -then see how you feel. Sleeping without electricity is the next step. The very best way to figure all of this out quickly is to spend some money on ahome inspection by someone in your area that can advise you.  

Search google using the keywords below and you will find a list of people that can help you get started in this vast subject. They can suggest doctorsthat understand the illness too.

Building Biology Environmental Consultants


--- In [hidden email], "barbpom2000" <barbpom2000@...> wrote:

Hi, Barb,
 
Marc has probably answered this post already, but it is not the same as going without power or being out in nature where there is no electricity.  The Quantum products make other frequencies less noxious.  (I cannot say whether Earthcalm products are the same or not.)  How they do it is somewhat of a mystery.  I have asked the company rep but I have only been told it is like repaving a smooth super highway over where there once was a rutty dirt road.  I understand the concept but I too would like more info on how it is accomplished.  I ultimately chose to buy the product on the 60 day guarantee, fully expecting to have to return it.  I was pleasantly surprised when I was able to find a setting which worked for me in 2 hours of using it.  (And this isn't recommended--it is recommended you slowly adjust the settings over the course of about 2 weeks.  It does cause detoxing effects and can make you very "woosey" and clumsy to go straight to the
setting best for you and I don't recommend you leave it there.  I am notsure whether this is the case with Earthcalm products or not.  I had a bad accident requiring hand surgery which may have partially been due to my clumsiness due to the Q Pro and not working slowly up to the correct setting.  Find the setting which works best for you and then use that settingonly 30 mins to 1 hour, slowly increasing the time each day, or do it the way the instructions tell you to, if you get one.  Follow the directions for the Earthcalm if you get that one.) 
 
Re RLS....  I also had that previous to my celiac disease dx.  For me, it was mainlydue to iron deficiency anemia.  But I do know other EMSerswho suffer RLS and I occasionally do have this symptom when I have been exposed to alot of frequencies.

Don't apologise for not knowing everything; we (almost) all started out where you are!
Take care,
Diane
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From: barbpom2000 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Alittle confused about a devise that is to strong.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:14 AM


 



Hi Again,

O.K. , If you all do not mind I still have questions. When you say a product is to strong, is this meaning that it is stopping the EMF to fast?? How would this differ from turning off all the electricty to the home at night, wouldn't that give you the same effect?? I truly do not understand exactly how the products stops the EMF's. That is something I will read up on more.But let's say you go camping, and you are totally without power, that would be the same reaction you would get with a strong devise taking away the EMF's or am I not understanding somethig right.

Again, I am sorry for not knowing more before I joined this club, you all seem so extremely versed in all this, I feel actually embarrased to ask questions. What I want to do is get the weaker plug in the wall unit from earthcalm, and not say anything to my family, to see if anyone feels sicky. If we do, then I will turn it on so many hours a day and work up to all day 24/7.

Thank you all for your help, I am trying to understand as fast as I can, sometimes I think the EMF are really messing with my mind.

Another thing I want to talk about is I have a brother in law who has extrememly bad RLS, restless leg syndrome. SO bad he cannot sleep. He lives justa block from a huge tower. I am wondering if this could be causing it, Dr.s do not seem to know why. I am going to try and get something printed for him to understand the culprit maybe right next to his home!

Thanks..and may your EMF's is limited and you all are in good health!

















     

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Hi Barb
 
I haven't been online for quite a while and have only just seen this post so, just 2 things
 
Never ever apologise for asking questions - this is complex stuff to get your head around - I still struggle with a lot of the technical stuff. This is what this group is for - to let people help each other to find out more about this stuff so ask whatever you need to ask and you can bet someone on here will have an answer!
 
Re your brother's restless legs, my home is near 2 cell towers - I think I am in the middle of them and they are about 300m away from my house. One ofthe first indications I had that things were geting worse which alerted meto the fact that I was ES was dreadful resltess legs - at the time I had no idea what it was but looking back now it all fits into place. A few months after that I began to get a sensation of electricity running all over me when I was in bed. The fact that I was sleeping on a sprung mattress on topof an iron bed frame [looks lovely but its prob only a death trap! LO] wasprobably a factor. Also at around the time that happened they were installing some new communications equipment for the emergency services at the end of my road so I think it was that that completely tipped me into the ES experience. So maybe your brother should start to think about these things because unfotunately more and more people seem to be affected by all
this.
 
Please post again about how you are getting on withthe earth calm because Iam thinking of trying that system and would be very interested to know howyou get on and what your experience is with it.
 
Best wishes
 
Steph
 


--- On Sat, 3/10/09, barbpom2000 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: barbpom2000 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Alittle confused about a devise that is to strong.
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, 3 October, 2009, 3:14 PM


 



Hi Again,

O.K. , If you all do not mind I still have questions. When you say a product is to strong, is this meaning that it is stopping the EMF to fast?? How would this differ from turning off all the electricty to the home at night, wouldn't that give you the same effect?? I truly do not understand exactly how the products stops the EMF's. That is something I will read up on more.But let's say you go camping, and you are totally without power, that would be the same reaction you would get with a strong devise taking away the EMF's or am I not understanding somethig right.

Again, I am sorry for not knowing more before I joined this club, you all seem so extremely versed in all this, I feel actually embarrased to ask questions. What I want to do is get the weaker plug in the wall unit from earthcalm, and not say anything to my family, to see if anyone feels sicky. If we do, then I will turn it on so many hours a day and work up to all day 24/7.

Thank you all for your help, I am trying to understand as fast as I can, sometimes I think the EMF are really messing with my mind.

Another thing I want to talk about is I have a brother in law who has extrememly bad RLS, restless leg syndrome. SO bad he cannot sleep. He lives justa block from a huge tower. I am wondering if this could be causing it, Dr.s do not seem to know why. I am going to try and get something printed for him to understand the culprit maybe right next to his home!

Thanks..and may your EMF's is limited and you all are in good health!

















     

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In a message dated 08/10/2009 13:09:41 GMT Daylight Time,
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Hi Barb

I haven't been online for quite a while and have only just seen this post
so, just 2 things




Paul uk - Hi barb, do please get yourself a meter to check your place out -
The electrosmog detector is a good basic start available through lessemf
etc..


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