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Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy?

carazzz

How long before someone can expect to see results? In other words,
how should I give it before moving on to try something else?

Always optimistic but not wanting to waste a lot of time. Thanks.

Cara
--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch
writes
> > about it. There should be another reason.
>
> Yes, and I listed the other reason -- I've tried it, and it
> works for me.
>
> Marc

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Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy?

Marc Martin
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> How long before someone can expect to see results? In other words,
> how should I give it before moving on to try something else?
>
> Always optimistic but not wanting to waste a lot of time. Thanks.

My philosophy is that you should not have to wait too long.

The best stuff works almost immediately -- that is, within
24 hours. Other good stuff works within a few days.

A lot of companies try to convince you that you should try
their product for 30-90 days before seeing results. I feel
that this is ridiculous. If you can't tell that it's helping
you within a week or two, then it's not helping you enough
to keep buying more of it.

Marc

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Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy?

johnmauersberger
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Franz,
That's true, but it's OK to joke around a little bit too.

John M.

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From: franspppp
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Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy?



Marc and all,

this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch writes
about it. There should be another reason.

Frans

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> Oh, and note that since Quackwatch took the time
> to write about how awful Seasilver is, you know
> it must be good! :-)
>
> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/seasilver.html
>
> Marc





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Re: Seasilver vs Sea Energy?

xmanflash2001
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Not neccesarily, although I agree that anything has to stand on its own
merits..

The unstated assumption is that Quackwatch is not a benign set of
scientific principled old gentlemen, but a targetting process or another
form of lobbying for those who wish to deny scientific advancement
outside of the traditional controls . If that is true (unlikely, but
definately possible when you consider the stakeholders and previous
history) then the statement makes sense.

:-)

Cheers
Pete

franspppp wrote:

>
> Marc and all,
>
> this is nonsense. Something cannot be good BECAUSE quackwatch writes
> about it. There should be another reason.
>
> Frans
>
> --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > Oh, and note that since Quackwatch took the time
> > to write about how awful Seasilver is, you know
> > it must be good! :-)
> >
> > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/seasilver.html
> >
> > Marc
>
>
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Re: quackwatch

xmanflash2001
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Frans, Again I take umbrage, although I enjoy your questions..

Hi Frans,

I am not sure how you can say none of these things exist. If somebody
gets sick from something, and somebody else does not, then surely its a
matter of sensitivity. If somebody who sits in a high EMF field gets
headaches and somebody else does not, then surely its still a matter of
sensitivity. I dont see why you call electrosensitivity non existant,
when it is only defining a level of radiation sickness vs exposure to
the source which surely is valid? - Is this just a terminology problem?

Cheers
Pete

franspppp wrote:

>
> Dear Marc,
>
> I am sorry, but reading what Hulda Clark writes there is only one
> conclusion, this is bare nonsense. That does not mean that there
> could not be some useful recipe, maybe epsomsalt+citrus+olive does
> clean a lot.
>
> And electrosensitivity certainly does not exist (I don't need a
> quackwatcher for this). Neither does magnetosensitivity. The only
> organ of the human body sensitive to electromagnetic radiation is the
> eye, it registrates the visible light.
>
> Suffering from microwave sickness is not sensitivity, it is suffering
> from the consequences of effects of HF radiation. The problem is the
> body does not have an answer to the present HF radiation. And the
> medical and scientific people do not understand it is not
> sensitivity, not allergy, not asbestos, smoking or drinking, it is
> radiation sickness, basically to be understood and researched like
> every radiation sickness (X-rays, sun burn, ionising rays), dosimetry
> (place), accumulation (time), parameters of the patient, etc.
>
> That the quackbusters loose the claim that homeopathy is illegal and
> advertising should be forbidden does not prove homeopathy is true. It
> does tell however that the quackbusters are a bit strange. Why do
> they think it is their task to fight vehemently like that and indeed,
> they often use the argument of ridiculising, which is not valid.
>
> Don't take me wrong, I am serious about HF-radiation sickness and I
> am in a terrible situation now, because I can't even go to my office
> for more than a short time and at home there are dect's and
> wlan's in the near neighbourhood. There is no doubt that there is a
> correlation between HF-fields and the suffering of 'electrosensitive'
> people. There are many people who have found this, by trying
> protection, leaving to a less radiated place, measuring by simple
> devices like the Aaronia HF-meter. Their stories are consistent.
>
> But to tell you this is all because of bleach, and flukes in your
> liver since there are solvents in your brain, you can kill the flukes
> and the HIV (which never has been seen to exist) and bacteria by the
> zapper and then new viruses raise from the dead bacteria, so you have
> to use the zapper another seven minutes, and then you can remove your
> liver stones (??) by epsom salt+citrus+olive oil, and you will not
> get cancer because you just killed the cancer virus, it's all nuts.
>
> Of course it is frustrating that regular medicine and science doesn't
> research and explain HF radiation sickness (yet?). Of course I am
> glad if people find relieve or even a solution by cognitive therapy
> or suggestion or alternative means - it is good! But no reason to
> leave regular science and follow nutty people like Hulda Clark.
>
> By the way, the quackwatch article is about power lines and cancer.
> According to IARC (WHO) ELF is possibly carcinogenic (Group 2B).
> Twofold risk for childhood leukemia at 400 nT. See:
> http://www-cie.iarc.fr/htdocs/monographs/vol80/80.html
> So, quackwatch is wrong, there is reason for concern.
>
> But, 'electrosensitivity' is about much more than the risk for
> cancer, namely about the harmfulness of HF radiation.
>
> I am curious about the thinking of all the others on this forum,
>
> Frans
>
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