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Zero EMF Near Infrared Sauna

sailplane
Just posting in case anybody may be interested in trying:
https://saunaspace.com/shop/near-infrared-4-light-panel/

I am thinking about it.. they have a 1-bulb one, and they also sell the bulb separately so you can screw it into your own fixture, which would be super cheap!!.. But it won't be zero EMF... although you could stay further away from it.. the bulb is $10!

Some say hardware stores have these infrared bulbs too..
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casper
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This is really neat. I didn't know it's that easy to shield EMF from these lights. But their products are extremely expensive.

The bulbs look similar to the Philips IR bulbs that most people use. I wonder what the difference is with these and the Philips ones.

I have 3 of the Philips bulbs myself (BR125), but without the faraday cage they produce a field measurable 1-2m from the bulb. I'm assuming it's just the metal grill around the bulb that is preventing (low-frequency) EMF leakage.
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Re: Zero EMF Near Infrared Sauna

sailplane
casper wrote
This is really neat. I didn't know it's that easy to shield EMF from these lights. But their products are extremely expensive.

The bulbs look similar to the Philips IR bulbs that most people use. I wonder what the difference is with these and the Philips ones.

I have 3 of the Philips bulbs myself (BR125), but without the faraday cage they produce a field measurable 1-2m from the bulb. I'm assuming it's just the metal grill around the bulb that is preventing (low-frequency) EMF leakage.
yes just the metal cage will drop E fields to zero, .. and yes likely some Philips bulb that they use.
As long as your bulb is near-infrared..

I don't know what they do for M fields and how come there are none, but I never measured a bulb for M fields to see what's there. They say no M field in front, but there is on the sides and behind.
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Jinna
I found more info on near infrared on this site from dr Wilson

http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/SAUNA_THERAPY.htm

And here, very cheap saunas with near infrared...

http://www.drlwilson.com/SAUNAS/BUY%20OTHER%20SAUNAS.htm

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Of course, this is a different view on the benefits of near infrared X Far infrared saunas:

https://rockymountainsaunas.com/blogs/infrared-sauna-facts/far-infrared-sauna-vs-near-infrared

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I have to say that I own a LED device (that does not heat, because it's LED) for about 10 years, and it uses mostly Near Infrared frequencies. It's called Photonic Energetics 1 (PE1).

In particular, 880 nm is said to be extremely beneficial.

My device that has Near Infrared frequencies (875nm 880nm, 940 nm) and visible infrared LEDs too (655nm, 680nm) is what helped me heal from lyme disease, after years fighting it with all sorts of means.

I can't use it as a sauna, as it does not heat, as I said. Only minimally.

It feels very nice, but I think it does that not exactly due to its wavelength, but mostly due to the 'blinking' frequencies. It blinks in different frequencies, from very slow to fast blinking.

I used these near infrared lamps before, for heating my back or any part of the body...

I'll try to use it again next time I do a foot bath and check how much dirt comes out in the water.

I know that my device PE1 makes me detox, because when I shine it on my feet during a very hot foot bath with salts, the water will be very dirty. Very. Much more than without it.

I'll try with the normal heating lamps as suggested in the websites above, just to see if the water gets muddy....

Thanks for telling us about this option!! Anyone theoretically could build a sauna easily then??
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Merializer
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I'm gonna try near infrared sauna therapy,
gonna build it myself, it should be easy and cheap to do for everyone.

This is one of the easiest ways to make it, but there are other ways:
https://youtu.be/8j9f1ySteQY

Dr. Mercola video:
In this video they talk about 250 watt red incandescent lamps (unlike other lamps which are sometimes far less effective).
https://youtu.be/ZT8-6BHENgQ
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/09/02/near-infrared-light-benefits.aspx

Be careful: you need fittings that can withstand a 250 watt lamp.

They say the electric fields can be shielded,
the magnetic field can be reduced with another magnetic field (but the guy doesn't say how he does it),
we might be able to figure this out ourselves (?).
His are said to be very clean EMF wise, but very expensive.
https://saunaspace.com/shop/

https://www.emfanalysis.com/low-emf-infrared-sauna/

The above links by Jinna from Dr. Wilson are an excellent read.
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Re: Zero EMF Near Infrared Sauna

dtesh85
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Thanks for sharing this.

I am sure that a lot of us can benefit from Red Light and Infrared Saunas

Good findings
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Merializer
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I kinda finished my homemade near infrared sauna.
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Daniel
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At the moment, my apartment is being renovated and I'm going to buy a sauna-like this. How can I know its radiation in advance, I am interested in these saunas. Will it be appropriate to contact the technical support of this site with such a question? My wife has long dreamed of such a thing, but we do not want me to feel bad about the radiation.
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Fog Top
Daniel, maybe there's some sauna information in this article that yo can use:



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Marc Martin
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Note that there is at least one brand of infrared sauna that advertises itself as having "zero EMF".  Although I'm sure that is somewhat misleading, because when you're using that many watts, clearly you are making things worse from an EMF standpoint (just from the current draw in the wiring along):

  https://sauna.space/

Marc
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Fog Top
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Interesting that Costco is offering a "low EMF" FAR infrared sauna.  Note the 'Bluetooth' capability - guess they forgot about that.

https://www.costco.com/dynamic-lugano-3-person-low-emf-far-infrared-sauna.product.100422409.html

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Merializer
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I seem to have found a YouTube channel with a guy that seems honest, and he has a bunch of EMF and RF meters (see picture above) with which he measures saunas and he seems to fairly know what he is doing with meters (in the videos i have seen).
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpnQVN493fEsjJsR-6a_vzA/playlists

About the cheapo DIY sauna i homemade, here are measurements when in front of it:
(i re-measured because i measured too fast the first time, and something didn't make sense).

With the Esmog Spion in it's electric mode:
With ground cable it goes down to no LED when going closer (since the cage is grounded), further away there are 2 green LED's, but this should be from other sources.
Without ground cable the led goes up from no LED's further away to 1 green LED one inch from the cage.

With the Gigahertz me3851a:
The magnetic field stays around 10nT when going closer (this is very low if you wouldn't know).
With ground cable in electric mode, the values go down going closer (since i grounded the cage).
In electric mode (without ground cable) about 3V/m 20cm from the cage (about where your closest body part would be maybe (?) (toes and knees)). The closer you get the higher, 1 inch from the cage it's about 6V/m.
Does this worry me since i have EHS ? Not sure, this isn't high though, so not really yet since you only use this short times anyways and it didn't cost me thousands of euros to build, but i will have to use it and test it long term to know. For non EHS people this shouldn't be a problem at all.

Body voltage is about 200mV or 0.200V sitting in front of the cage (which is about the base level in this room).

The mesh(cage) blocks a lot of electric fields though. Without cage electric is very high on both meters.

I'm still learning about saunas, i haven't used mine much yet, for several reasons,
one is because i wanted to test the effects of the Advanced TRS heavy metal detox product i am taking.
If i would have been using both sauna and TRS, one might have worked, but how to know then which one ? So i didn't.
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Re: Zero EMF Near Infrared Sauna

Merializer
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He is well aware of one of this worlds big problem.
In general it's so hard to make progress when you are sick,
because there is so much misinformation, misleading info and lies,
poor, useless or even harmful products.
People are literally dying because of all this.
Anybody who can help in fighting the lies should.
If you hide important information,
or do nothing with something important,
you may be co-responsible for someone elses death.



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Merializer
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I just hope he doesn't miss something
since he doesn't seem to measure Dirty Electricity,
in the videos i have seen so far.

Unfortunately i cannot afford a real sauna,
unless i make it myself or something.

Still be careful and see measurements before buying a sauna he recommends.