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carazzz

Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms triggered by
exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband welcomed
me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a while
to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by proximity
to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon as I
got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually enjoy
each other's company.)

I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs
for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs
wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if
so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?

Cara

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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't
really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think
the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a
walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of
releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet
grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found
that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical
exposure problems.

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Weird question




Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
triggered by
exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
welcomed
me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
while
to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
proximity
to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
soon as I
got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually
enjoy
each other's company.)

I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands
and legs
for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs

wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
transmitter? And, if
so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?

Cara









 
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Re: Weird question

Marc Martin
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> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs
> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs
> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if
> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?

Well, I suppose you could use some EMF protection devices yourself, so you're
not bringing it home with you.

But no, I've never really experienced this problem by exposure to others.

Marc

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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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I should add that it is necessary to have bare feet!

Sarah



Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't
really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think
the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a
walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of
releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet
grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found
that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical
exposure problems.

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Weird question




Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
triggered by
exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
welcomed
me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
while
to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
proximity
to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
soon as I
got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually
enjoy
each other's company.)

I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands
and legs
for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs

wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
transmitter? And, if
so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?

Cara









 
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Re: Weird question

randolf_everywhere-2
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Hallo,

I know comparable things since many years.
For me it is not only a trigger to stimulate mind games including voices
but also creating pain and stress by psychic attacks as I call them.

To my experience shielding can weaken also this attacks.

Randolf


--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
triggered by
> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my
husband welcomed
> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took
us a while
> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
proximity
> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
soon as I
> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
usually enjoy
> each other's company.)
>
> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
hands and legs
> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
surfs
> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
transmitter? And, if
> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>
> Cara

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Re: Weird question

Andrew McAfee
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Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding
barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more
conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of
the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our
body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it
is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications.
Ground yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets
are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the
outlet or area systems.
A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it?
Actually, thanks for reminding me to take more of them.
Andrew
On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Cara wrote:

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>
> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> triggered by
> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> welcomed
> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> while
> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> proximity
> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
> soon as I
> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> usually enjoy
> each other's company.)
>
> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
> hands and legs
> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
> surfs
> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> transmitter? And, if
> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>
> Cara
>
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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
In reply to this post by carazzz
Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I
know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This
would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been
around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by
the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation
carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot!

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question



Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding
barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more
conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of
the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our
body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it
is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground
yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets
are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the
outlet or area systems.
A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually,
thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at
10:42 PM, Cara wrote:

>
>
> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> triggered by
> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> welcomed
> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> while
> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> proximity
> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
> soon as I
> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> usually enjoy
> each other's company.)
>
> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
> hands and legs
> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
> surfs
> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> transmitter? And, if
> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>
> Cara
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: Weird question

Glenn Coleman
In reply to this post by Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
My Shiatsu therapist asks me to walk a lot, especially right after a therapy
session, to get my natural energy flows moving smoothly.

Your comments about walking in bare feet give new meaning to how I can enjoy
my walks in bare feet in the summer. It not only grounds my body, but
balances energy naturally, so highly beneficial for balancing my ES
symptoms.

Glenn

>From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:31:49 +1100
>
>I should add that it is necessary to have bare feet!
>
>Sarah
>
>
>
>Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't
>really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think
>the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a
>walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of
>releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet
>grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found
>that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical
>exposure problems.
>
>Sarah
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [eSens] Weird question
>
>
>
>
>Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
>triggered by
>exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
>welcomed
>me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
>while
>to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
>proximity
>to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
>soon as I
>got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually
>enjoy
>each other's company.)
>
>I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands
>and legs
>for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs
>
>wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
>transmitter? And, if
>so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>
>Cara
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Glenn Coleman
In reply to this post by Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
Great to know about this grounding effect in bathtub with salt water. That
explains why my epson salt baths feel so beneficial. I combine the bath
with visualizations, that the bad energy in my body is being cleaned out of
my chakras, in streams of bad energy flowing off me. Then I imagine my
cleanly energized body feeling strong and vibrant (becoming more resistant
to ES).

It has had a dramatic effect on my overall well-being, when doing it every
two or three days.

Glenn

>From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:51 +1100
>
>Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I
>know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This
>would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been
>around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by
>the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation
>carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot!
>
>Sarah
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
>
>
>
>Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
>you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding
>barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more
>conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of
>the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our
>body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it
>is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground
>yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets
>are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the
>outlet or area systems.
>A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually,
>thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at
>10:42 PM, Cara wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > triggered by
> > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> > welcomed
> > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> > while
> > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> > proximity
> > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
> > soon as I
> > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> > usually enjoy
> > each other's company.)
> >
> > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
> > hands and legs
> > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
> > surfs
> > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> > transmitter? And, if
> > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> >
> > Cara
> >
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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
In reply to this post by carazzz
I also find it easier to meditate in the bath than anywhere else! What
funny confessions come out on this list. Have a nice weekend everyone..

Sarah


-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Coleman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 5:49 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question



Great to know about this grounding effect in bathtub with salt water.
That
explains why my epson salt baths feel so beneficial. I combine the bath

with visualizations, that the bad energy in my body is being cleaned out
of
my chakras, in streams of bad energy flowing off me. Then I imagine my

cleanly energized body feeling strong and vibrant (becoming more
resistant
to ES).

It has had a dramatic effect on my overall well-being, when doing it
every
two or three days.

Glenn

>From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:51 +1100
>
>Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I
>know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This
>would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been
>around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by

>the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation
>carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot!
>
>Sarah
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
>
>
>
>Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
>you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding
>barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more

>conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of

>the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our
>body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it
>is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground
>yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets are
>correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the outlet
>or area systems. A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad,
>would it? Actually, thanks for reminding me to take more of them.
>Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Cara wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > triggered by exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day,

> > my husband welcomed
> > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> > while
> > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused
by
> > proximity
> > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near --
as

> > soon as I
> > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> > usually enjoy
> > each other's company.)
> >
> > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
> > hands and legs for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the
> > company uses Treos, surfs
> > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> > transmitter? And, if
> > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> >
> > Cara
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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stichting milieuziektes
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Hello,

another explanation could be:

The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when
they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person.

This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be
percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.

This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that
those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under
some kind of electricity.

The latter brings up another idea.
If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it
may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that
something went astray.
One wonders.
It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
> Subject: [eSens] Weird question
>
>
> >
> >
> > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> triggered by
> > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> welcomed
> > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
while
> > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> proximity
> > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
soon
> as I
> > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually
> enjoy
> > each other's company.)
> >
> > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands
> and legs
> > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs
> > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
transmitter?

> And, if
> > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> >
> > Cara
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Andrew McAfee
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I forgot to mention to ground your car with a grounding cord
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
You can build up enough static on the way home from work to cause those
symptoms.
Andrew
On Jan 21, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison) wrote:

>
> Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I
> know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This
> would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been
> around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by
> the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation
> carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot!
>
> Sarah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
>
>
>
> Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
> you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding
> barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more
> conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of
> the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our
> body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it
> is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground
> yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets
> are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the
> outlet or area systems.
> A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually,
> thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005,
> at
> 10:42 PM, Cara wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
>> triggered by
>> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
>> welcomed
>> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
>> while
>> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
>> proximity
>> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
>> soon as I
>> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
>> usually enjoy
>> each other's company.)
>>
>> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
>> hands and legs
>> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
>> surfs
>> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
>> transmitter? And, if
>> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>>
>> Cara
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Andrew McAfee
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Or they were playing with HAARP and it went exactly as planned.

On Jan 21, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Stichting Milieuziektes wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> another explanation could be:
>
> The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially
> when
> they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
> This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
> measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible
> person.
>
> This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which
> can be
> percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.
>
> This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as
> that
> those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
> They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely
> under
> some kind of electricity.
>
> The latter brings up another idea.
> If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of
> frequencies, it
> may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and
> that
> something went astray.
> One wonders.
> It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton Antivirus
>
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
>> Subject: [eSens] Weird question
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
>> triggered by
>>> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
>> welcomed
>>> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> while
>>> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
>> proximity
>>> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
> soon
>> as I
>>> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
>>> usually
>> enjoy
>>> each other's company.)
>>>
>>> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
>>> hands
>> and legs
>>> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
>>> surfs
>>> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> transmitter?
>> And, if
>>> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>>>
>>> Cara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Weird question

Marc Martin
Administrator
In reply to this post by Andrew McAfee
> I forgot to mention to ground your car with a grounding cord
> http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html
> You can build up enough static on the way home from work to cause those
> symptoms.

This is one area where I found an EMF protection device to make
me worse -- when using the Quantum "Auto Clear" unit in my car,
I found that whenever I got out of the car, I would get a huge
shock touching the car door! I later switched shoes to ones
which have "grounding" soles, and the problem went away. And
then later I just used a Springlife OM pendant, which doesn't
have this problem.

Marc

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Re: Weird question

Glenn Coleman
In reply to this post by stichting milieuziektes
These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me break-throughs) in
better understanding ES symptoms.

I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk face to
face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more). I never
linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had suspected that
it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain circumstances
that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time face to
face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded).

This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these extreme ES
symptoms when attempting to meet with people.

This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt
bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to face
with people.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you

Glenn

>From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100
>
>Hello,
>
>another explanation could be:
>
>The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when
>they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
>This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
>measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person.
>
>This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be
>percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.
>
>This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that
>those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
>They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under
>some kind of electricity.
>
>The latter brings up another idea.
>If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it
>may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that
>something went astray.
>One wonders.
>It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.
>
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
>member Verband Baubiologie
>www.milieuziektes.nl
>www.hetbitje.nl
>checked by Norton Antivirus
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Weird question
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > triggered by
> > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> > welcomed
> > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
>while
> > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> > proximity
> > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
>soon
> > as I
> > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
>usually
> > enjoy
> > > each other's company.)
> > >
> > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
>hands
> > and legs
> > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
>surfs
> > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
>transmitter?
> > And, if
> > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> > >
> > > Cara
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Weird question

stichting milieuziektes
In order to get lower body tensions, a grounding is good.
Showers before going to bed is also good.
Schindeles Mineralien is also good for building down the body tension.
(It contains silicea plus a great number of minerals)

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Coleman" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 17:10
Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question


>
> These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me break-throughs)
in
> better understanding ES symptoms.
>
> I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk face
to
> face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more). I
never
> linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had suspected
that

> it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain circumstances
> that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time face to
> face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded).
>
> This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these extreme ES
> symptoms when attempting to meet with people.
>
> This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt
> bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to face
> with people.
>
> Thank you, Thank you, Thank you
>
> Glenn
>
> >From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <[hidden email]>
> >Reply-To: [hidden email]
> >To: <[hidden email]>
> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
> >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >another explanation could be:
> >
> >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially
when
> >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
> >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
> >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person.
> >
> >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can
be
> >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.
> >
> >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that
> >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
> >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under
> >some kind of electricity.
> >
> >The latter brings up another idea.
> >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies,
it
> >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and
that

> >something went astray.
> >One wonders.
> >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.
> >
> >Greetings,
> >Charles Claessens
> >member Verband Baubiologie
> >www.milieuziektes.nl
> >www.hetbitje.nl
> >checked by Norton Antivirus
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
> > > To: <[hidden email]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > > triggered by
> > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> > > welcomed
> > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
> >while
> > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused
by
> > > proximity
> > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near --
as

> >soon
> > > as I
> > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> >usually
> > > enjoy
> > > > each other's company.)
> > > >
> > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my
> >hands
> > > and legs
> > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos,
> >surfs
> > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> >transmitter?
> > > And, if
> > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> > > >
> > > > Cara
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Weird question

bbin37
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--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> triggered by exposure to a *person*?
>

Oh, yeah. People with static buildup have caused this for me and
getting them to go 'feet bare' in my vicinity works well. You could
also invest in some grounding work shoes to keep your charge balanced
with the local situation. I bought some at Red Wing Shoes after Marc
mentioned them. (Thx, Marc!)

People who have a lot of emotional 'charge', from having been stressed
at work, being angry, or whatever, can also do this to me if I'm
having a low day.

Or folks who've been around a chemical I'm sensitive to can do this,
too.

>
> Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if
> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
>

The human body does have EM fields associated with it, and the hands
and feet are particularly reactive to these fields as well as being
good transmitters of them. These fields are easily detectable by
other peoples' systems within a few feet, creating responses even in
non-ES ppl though they may not be consciously aware of their response.

You can absorb and store a lot of information from your day in your
body's field, reconfiguring it. Very sensitive folk can be highly
affected by this information/reconfiguration. Your system's field may
have been entrained by EMF around it, imprinting you with the signal
qualities you've been heavily exposed, or are susceptible, to. This
EM 'information imprint' can cause a reaction in someone sensitive to
that information.

I find what the other list members have said help with this situation
work for me, too.

Beau

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stichting milieuziektes
Another explanation:

Look at: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html

There one can see the Resonant Field Imaging.
(It is one of the best systems for determining auras!)
.
It is an american system, where on 40 points around the body frequencies are
measured, which are then put into a computer programm, which than gives a
color and explanation of the corresponding aura's.

Those frequencies lie in the MHz region. They are measured with a frequency
counter.
If the health or emotion changes, the frequencies change accordingly.

So, ES people can *sense* those auras or frequency fields.
Some people can feel auras, some can see them, and others can feel and see
them at the same time.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus


----- Original Message -----
From: "Beau" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 19:54
Subject: [eSens] Re: Weird question


>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > triggered by exposure to a *person*?
> >
>
> Oh, yeah. People with static buildup have caused this for me and
> getting them to go 'feet bare' in my vicinity works well. You could
> also invest in some grounding work shoes to keep your charge balanced
> with the local situation. I bought some at Red Wing Shoes after Marc
> mentioned them. (Thx, Marc!)
>
> People who have a lot of emotional 'charge', from having been stressed
> at work, being angry, or whatever, can also do this to me if I'm
> having a low day.
>
> Or folks who've been around a chemical I'm sensitive to can do this,
> too.
>
> >
> > Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if
> > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> >
>
> The human body does have EM fields associated with it, and the hands
> and feet are particularly reactive to these fields as well as being
> good transmitters of them. These fields are easily detectable by
> other peoples' systems within a few feet, creating responses even in
> non-ES ppl though they may not be consciously aware of their response.
>
> You can absorb and store a lot of information from your day in your
> body's field, reconfiguring it. Very sensitive folk can be highly
> affected by this information/reconfiguration. Your system's field may
> have been entrained by EMF around it, imprinting you with the signal
> qualities you've been heavily exposed, or are susceptible, to. This
> EM 'information imprint' can cause a reaction in someone sensitive to
> that information.
>
> I find what the other list members have said help with this situation
> work for me, too.
>
> Beau
>
>
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Re: Weird question

Emil at Less EMF Inc
In reply to this post by stichting milieuziektes
This theory would be easy to test. Just use a body voltage sensor (see
http://www.lessemf.com/es.html#183 if you need such a device).

See if your body voltage level corresponds to how sensitive your husband is
to you. Higher body voltage = greater sensitivity?

If this is true, it will be very easy to correct.

Emil


At 02:04 PM 1/21/2005, you wrote:

>Hello,
>
>another explanation could be:
>
>The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when
>they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
>This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
>measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person.
>
>This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be
>percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.
>
>This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that
>those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
>They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under
>some kind of electricity.
>
>The latter brings up another idea.
>If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it
>may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that
>something went astray.
>One wonders.
>It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.
>
>Greetings,
>Charles Claessens
>member Verband Baubiologie
>www.milieuziektes.nl
>www.hetbitje.nl
>checked by Norton Antivirus
>
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
> > To: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
> > Subject: [eSens] Weird question
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > triggered by
> > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> > welcomed
> > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a
>while
> > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by
> > proximity
> > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as
>soon
> > as I
> > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually
> > enjoy
> > > each other's company.)
> > >
> > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands
> > and legs
> > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs
> > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
>transmitter?
> > And, if
> > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> > >
> > > Cara
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Weird question

bbin37
In reply to this post by Glenn Coleman

Glenn, did you notice anything pertaining to your eyes when you were
becoming symptomatic in the face-to-face situations? I've noticed a
strain on my vision, like someone being too close or a poorly lighted
environment (too dim or too bright) can make me more sensitive.

Beau
--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...> wrote:
> These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me
break-throughs) in
> better understanding ES symptoms.
>
> I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk
face to
> face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more).
I never
> linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had
suspected that
> it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain
circumstances
> that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time
face to
> face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded).
>
> This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these
extreme ES
> symptoms when attempting to meet with people.
>
> This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt
> bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to
face

> with people.
>
> Thank you, Thank you, Thank you
>
> Glenn
>
> >From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <milieuziektes@s...>
> >Reply-To: [hidden email]
> >To: <[hidden email]>
> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question
> >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >another explanation could be:
> >
> >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high,
especially when
> >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day.
> >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have
> >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible
person.
> >
> >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which
can be
> >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive.
> >
> >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far,
as that
> >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes.
> >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely
under
> >some kind of electricity.
> >
> >The latter brings up another idea.
> >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of
frequencies, it
> >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP,
and that

> >something went astray.
> >One wonders.
> >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible.
> >
> >Greetings,
> >Charles Claessens
> >member Verband Baubiologie
> >www.milieuziektes.nl
> >www.hetbitje.nl
> >checked by Norton Antivirus
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...>
> > > To: <[hidden email]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM
> > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms
> > > triggered by
> > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband
> > > welcomed
> > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms.
Took us a
> >while
> > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was
caused by
> > > proximity
> > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was
near -- as
> >soon
> > > as I
> > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we
> >usually
> > > enjoy
> > > > each other's company.)
> > > >
> > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing
in my
> >hands
> > > and legs
> > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses
Treos,

> >surfs
> > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF
> >transmitter?
> > > And, if
> > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect?
> > > >
> > > > Cara
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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