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State of mind?

carazzz

Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological effects
of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just plain
gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in spite
of setbacks and all the rest.

Cara

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Re: State of mind?

Andrew McAfee
To keep my spirits up, I tell myself that I am the first of many and I
am blazing a trail for others to follow out of this maze. It may sound
grandiose but it keeps my spirits up when I feel like shit. Plus, I
think it is building my experience, knowledge, and patience. I thought
I was superman before all of this happened and I found my Kryptonite.
Choosing another way of handling a debilitating situation rather than
being a victim has been a big for me. I choose to think that this
experience is extremely valuable and is useful to my growth as well as
to other's future health.
Just think of what we have discovered first hand:
Mercury in vaccines (thimerosal), coal burning, and in metal fillings
in our teeth, etc. destroys people slowly,
the sources of harmful Aluminum from cooking pans, deodorant,
Chemtrails from airplanes (Aluminum Oxide), etc. are unknown to many,
Cell phones, cell Towers, TV and radio towers, computer terminals and
nuclear radiation sources cause numerous effects upon us (research is
abundant but unrecognized)
and on and on and on...

We are cutting edge both in our knowledge of what is making us sick and
also
HOW TO CURE OURSELVES! (no more victimhood).

Plus I am very fortunate to have a terrific wife who is very supportive
and positive. That helps big time!
And we have this list to vent and celebrate with...

Hope something here helps you.
Andrew



On Jan 3, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Cara wrote:

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> process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
> Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just plain
> gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
> anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in spite
> of setbacks and all the rest.
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> Cara
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Re: State of mind?

johnmauersberger
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Cara,
For me, this is the very worst part of the whole deal. Lately, at least now, I can feel a direct correlation between when the electrical sensitivity gets bad, so does the psychological aspects. I can at least feel that any depression, or anxiety is due to a physical illness, and that the fears, saddness, etc. have a contrete physical cause. Still, its hard sometimes to cope when you're in the middle of a bout.
The emotions that come up often coincide with a number of negative fearful thoughts pertaining to self worth, the fear that this pain will last forever, the feeling that you are being left behind while others live out more meaningful, productive lives, & on & on. When I"m feeling well, all these fears disappear & I begin to think that this time, I'm finially over it all. It was just a bad dream that I can look back on & say , I was victorious finially. But then, out of the blue, it returns, usually when I least expect it. All the plans I've started to make for things I'm going to do again come to seem impossible.
I always tend to look for a cause so that I can prevent another crash. My hope at present is that it's all due to heavy metal poisoning & once all these toxins are out of me, I'll finially be able to lead a stable existence looking forward to tomorrow instead of dreading it. Deep down I believe I'm deluding myself but maintaining hope is essential to be able to continue the daily trials that continue to arise.
I often try to find understanding of what were going through from a religous standpoint. Are we being prepared for something. Are we spiritually more advanced than other people? Is that why we can feel things others can't. Is that why we're more sensitive to the thoughts & feelings of others than many of those who would be considered the most successful & most wealthy?
Or are we cursed because of past sins, bad karma, or whatever.
I believe from my experience, that the only thing that causes spiritual growth is suffering. It makes you see things you didn't see before, even though they were always there. Like, the suffering of others. The struggle that is a part of life for so many people due to illness or old age. You can look at a person, they may look totally normal but you don't know what's going on with them. If they aren't able to work you have no reason to condemn them. You don't know what they are going through. If they're suffering from depression or other psychological problems, you don't know what they've had to endure.
Whatever their condition, you learn that you can't comdemn them. They may be far better people & far more corageous than some millionaire who's on the board of several large corporations & is successful in everything he does.
You tend to be more inclined to want to help others instead of anways doing things that will further you're own situation.
Hopefully, all the pain has a reward that will be realized at some point if not in this life then with whatever comes after it.
I just pray for the strength to see it through, even though the future & the purpose of all this is at present impossible to comprehend.

John M.

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From: Cara
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Subject: [eSens] State of mind?



Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological effects
of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just plain
gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in spite
of setbacks and all the rest.

Cara






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Re: State of mind?

Marc Martin
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> My hope at present is that it's all due to heavy metal
> poisoning & once all these toxins are out of me, I'll finially be
> able to lead a stable existence

Actually, I think you should be able to attain a stable existence
years before getting all the toxins out. I know that in my own
case, I'm still loaded with toxins, and yet I've led a "stable
existence" for a couple years. As long as I use my devices,
eat the right foods, take the right supplements, I do quite
well.

The ultimate goal of course is not to be dependent on these
things, but for that I think for that the toxins may indeed
be long gone...

Marc

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Re: State of mind?

franspppp
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Dear Cara,

cognitive therapy, positive self-suggestion, short-term decisions
(what can I do now? Do it, just small steps), forgive yourself (you
can't do more than you can) and ask forgiveness, and accept that what
is, is. These do help in my experience. Do you recognize this?

Frans


--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological
effects
> of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
> process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
> Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just
plain
> gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
> anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in
spite
> of setbacks and all the rest.
>
> Cara

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Re: State of mind?

carazzz

Hello Frans,
Thank you, and thanks to everyone who has written to share their ideas. I'm
grateful for everyone's suggestions. Of Frans' ideas the only thing we have tried
successfully so far is what you call positive self-suggestion. We are new to doing
"affirmations" (just this week) but yes, we are seeing some encouraging results.
Cara

--- In [hidden email], "franspppp" <franspppp@y...> wrote:

>
> Dear Cara,
>
> cognitive therapy, positive self-suggestion, short-term decisions
> (what can I do now? Do it, just small steps), forgive yourself (you
> can't do more than you can) and ask forgiveness, and accept that what
> is, is. These do help in my experience. Do you recognize this?
>
> Frans
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological
> effects
> > of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
> > process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
> > Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just
> plain
> > gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
> > anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in
> spite
> > of setbacks and all the rest.
> >
> > Cara

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Re: State of mind?

Glenn Coleman
Any kind of bioenergy work helps allot with emotional/psychological effects.
EMF, Mercury and medications really mess big-time with our bioenergy
systems.

Cognitive therapy was one of my favorite tools for keeping myself sane. The
tool in cognitive therapy that helps tremendously is to think about the
negative thoughts you are having, and check if there really is any grounds
for thinking that way, or is it your imagination at work? This can often
stop rough thought patterns in their tracks.

Some natural things that can help ones bioenergy are:

* Drinking lots of water
* Going for walks (keeps energy flowing)
* Stretching
* Meditation & chanting

Some therapies that help bioenergy:

* Shiatsu
* Pranic Healing (a simple set of procedures anyone can learn in a few
days)
* Aqua-Chi Machine
* Massage Therapy
* Certain tones from bells & drums (healing frequencies) like in buddhist
temples.

I have 1.5 hr shiatsu sessions once a month that do wonders for bioenergy
meridians & reduce symptoms.

Glenn

>From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [eSens] Re: State of mind?
>Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 14:53:22 -0000
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>Hello Frans,
>Thank you, and thanks to everyone who has written to share their ideas. I'm
>grateful for everyone's suggestions. Of Frans' ideas the only thing we have
>tried
>successfully so far is what you call positive self-suggestion. We are new
>to doing
>"affirmations" (just this week) but yes, we are seeing some encouraging
>results.
>Cara
>
>--- In [hidden email], "franspppp" <franspppp@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Cara,
> >
> > cognitive therapy, positive self-suggestion, short-term decisions
> > (what can I do now? Do it, just small steps), forgive yourself (you
> > can't do more than you can) and ask forgiveness, and accept that what
> > is, is. These do help in my experience. Do you recognize this?
> >
> > Frans
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological
> > effects
> > > of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
> > > process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
> > > Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just
> > plain
> > > gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
> > > anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in
> > spite
> > > of setbacks and all the rest.
> > >
> > > Cara
>
>
>

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Re: State of mind?

perla1133
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Clearing blocks/catches, karma or however you want to call it and toxins often brings emotional reactions. these are not necesarily bad, even necesarry. The best thing is to become a witness and try to watch the emotions go by like clouds, anger is here.. I think John mentioned twin flame hearts, a place where you can leave all these old things stored in your body and transmute it. (The violet flame also transmutes negativity).

Bach flower rescue remedie or other type of natural drops (i use one called relaxin with St johns worth, melissa, naranja agrio, passionflower and poro (sorry some spanish in there) for the central nervous system. I call them fear-drops and make sure to take them when there is fear. I heard one moment of fear can upset the body for five hours, fear is anti-love. It is better to have no theory if something particularly unexplicable happened, than a scary one. God is bigger than even HAARP, Light will conquer over dark. In fact everything is Light when there is no Judgement anymore and the tree of life and death will be the tree of life. Try to not Judge yourself, others God or situations. We will be free.

To go from dark into Light is not always easy but i do believe we will be rewarded!! Whatever happened declare it Love or if you cannot just go something like, the Buddha would not do this and still call it Love.

Choose Love!!



Cara <[hidden email]> wrote:

Any suggestions on how to manage the emotional/psychological effects
of this illness, especially as one is undertaking the long detox
process (in which things often get worse before they get better)?
Even when one isn't deliberately detoxing, ES symptoms are just plain
gruelling. I think state of mind is crucial and wonder what, if
anything, others have done to sustain morale, and keep going in spite
of setbacks and all the rest.

Cara






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