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Hope I didn't make a mistake. I needed a new recliner. My mother has a power recliner and when testing with my Cellsensor meter didn't really register any hot spots, although re-testing it today it does beep next to the controls.
I tested my new recliner and it doesn't register at the controls (it also has a USB port) but at certain spots it will beep for a second then stop even when I keep the sensor at the spot. Did I make a mistake here? They also sell a battery pack where you can charge it and use it instead of plugging in the recliner. I wasn't sure if the battery was a good idea or worse than plugging it in: https://www.livingspaces.com/pdp-battery-pack-for-reclining-furniture-ii-244527 Any opinions would be appreciated since I only have 7 days before I can return it. They have one manual recliner which isn't as comfortable and is a little difficult to put back into the upright position but would still be more comfortable than the old small recliner I got rid of: https://www.livingspaces.com/pdp-suzy-dark-grey-wallaway-recliner-107883 Thanks, Steve |
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Hmm, well I don't think I would ever buy a power recliner. Besides the issues with AC power, USB ports, and battery packs, these sorts of chairs have a lot of metal in them, which can also be a problem.
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Darn. Guess I may have to get the cheaper manual recliner. Re-stock fee as well. Should have been more careful reading the terms. Do you have any suggestions on where to get a decent manual wall hugger recliner? Steve
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 08:04:41 AM PST, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hmm, well I don't think I would ever buy a power recliner. Besides the issues with AC power, USB ports, and battery packs, these sorts of chairs have a lot of metal in them, which can also be a problem.
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Marc and all,
I also am looking for quality safe furniture. I am currently sitting in a recliner that has a wood base and is unplugged. But, looking for good suggestions for pieces with less metal and safe/No VOC. If anyone has bought recently, please list your recommendations. It's getting darn expensive to try to mitigate and reduce my symptoms. Everywhere I look there is a potential issue around. :( |
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I don't have any specific recommendations on recliners, or furniture... all of our furniture is getting pretty old, so at some point I will also have to research this. But nothing we have now is powered, and I doubt it will be in the future either. Also want to keep the metal content low.
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> It's getting darn expensive to try to mitigate and reduce my symptoms.
> Everywhere I look there is a potential issue around. :( Yes, it is expensive... I think that's one reason that many people never improve... because they simply cannot afford to make all the changes necessary to alleviate their symptoms. Marc |
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Do you think having this connected to a re-chargeable battery pack would be better than having it plugged in? Steve
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:06:34 PM PST, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
I don't have any specific recommendations on recliners, or furniture... all of our furniture is getting pretty old, so at some point I will also have to research this. But nothing we have now is powered, and I doubt it will be in the future either. Also want to keep the metal content low.
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I have MCS and the one good thing about the Living Spaces recliner I bought is that it is 100% polyester and not making me sick. The power issue though.....They do have a $200 recliner that is manual but it is hard to get the footrest back down and locked which is why I got the power one but I may exchange it for the manual recliner and just deal with that issue
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 11:59:17 AM PST, Elle [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Marc and all,
I also am looking for quality safe furniture. I am currently sitting in a recliner that has a wood base and is unplugged. But, looking for good suggestions for pieces with less metal and safe/No VOC. If anyone has bought recently, please list your recommendations. It's getting darn expensive to try to mitigate and reduce my symptoms. Everywhere I look there is a potential issue around. :( If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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> Do you think having this connected to a re-chargeable battery pack
> would be better than having it plugged in? Yes, my gut feeling is that the battery pack would be an improvement over AC power. Although I have had issues with some rechargeable batteries in the past, usually they don't seem to be an issue for me personally. Marc |
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Maybe I should take my meter to the store and test the battery pack. I should have taken it with me in the first place but I was planning on getting the manual recliner
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 01:19:17 PM PST, Marc Martin [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do you think having this connected to a re-chargeable battery pack
> would be better than having it plugged in? Yes, my gut feeling is that the battery pack would be an improvement over AC power. Although I have had issues with some rechargeable batteries in the past, usually they don't seem to be an issue for me personally. Marc If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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I found this very inexpensive recliner after doing a search. For some reason it didn't show up on living spaces when I searched recliners. I googled wallaway recliners and it came back available at Living Spaces for $100 less than Ashley charges at their store even though it is their product.
The fabric is polyester which is better than acrylic, PU and microfiber for those like me with chemical allergies. Plus it doesn't say it's treated with stain repellants which is toxic. It also has a handle on the side which makes it easier to close. If I had known Living Spaces was selling these I would have bought it. It's not on display in the store. https://www.livingspaces.com/pdp-nerviano-grey-wallaway-recliner-248535 |
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Steve, I hope you've found a chair which will work for you. I had a leather sofa with two power recliners. Just sitting in it for 15 minutes without using the power recliner function, I would begin to "feel" an unpleasant sensation. So, I just unplugged
the thing and never reclined and eventually sold it. As Marc mentioned, it had a metal frame and parts which didn't help matters, either.
From: steve [via ES] <ml+[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:52 PM To: Fog Top <[hidden email]> Subject: [ES] Re: Power recliners I found this very inexpensive recliner after doing a search. For some reason it didn't show up on living spaces when I searched recliners. I googled wallaway recliners and it came back available at Living Spaces for $100 less than Ashley charges at their
store even though it is their product.
The fabric is polyester which is better than acrylic, PU and microfiber for those like me with chemical allergies. Plus it doesn't say it's treated with stain repellants which is toxic. It also has a handle on the side which makes it easier to close. If I had known Living Spaces was selling these I would have bought it. It's not on display in the store. https://www.livingspaces.com/pdp-nerviano-grey-wallaway-recliner-248535 If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
http://es-forum.com/Power-recliners-tp4034685p4034698.html
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Thanks, yeah they all have metal in them somewhere, especially the base. I just wish I didn't also have MCS which makes buying recliners all that more difficult as I'm afraid some may have a smell to them. This recliner luckily doesn't smell too bad but the power aspect does bother me. I should have tried out the inexpensive manual one first. I also have a bad back to add to the problem of buying one. I have a feeling the Ashley recliner may smell more than the Living Spaces brand as ashley is known for using cheap materials. Steve
On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 05:03:04 PM PST, Fog Top [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Steve, I hope you've found a chair which will work for you. I had a leather sofa with two power recliners. Just sitting in it for 15 minutes without using the power recliner function, I would begin to "feel" an unpleasant sensation. So, I just unplugged
the thing and never reclined and eventually sold it. As Marc mentioned, it had a metal frame and parts which didn't help matters, either.
From: steve [via ES] <ml+[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:52 PM To: Fog Top <[hidden email]> Subject: [ES] Re: Power recliners I found this very inexpensive recliner after doing a search. For some reason it didn't show up on living spaces when I searched recliners. I googled wallaway recliners and it came back available at Living Spaces for $100 less than Ashley charges at their
store even though it is their product.
The fabric is polyester which is better than acrylic, PU and microfiber for those like me with chemical allergies. Plus it doesn't say it's treated with stain repellants which is toxic. It also has a handle on the side which makes it easier to close. If I had known Living Spaces was selling these I would have bought it. It's not on display in the store. https://www.livingspaces.com/pdp-nerviano-grey-wallaway-recliner-248535 If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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I ended up replacing the one I have with another Power Recliner in leather. This one tests a little better than the other one plus it's more comfortable then the polyester one. Only $100 more.
I brought my meter with me to the store and the non power recliner also gave off some EMFs so I figured I'd get the more comfortable one and see how it goes. I have to say that Living Spaces recliners at least don't smell toxic |
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And it does smell. My heart started beating fast while sitting in it and the smell is annoying. I hope it goes away, I have a fan blowing on it and my ionizer on. So frustrating.
I wonder if it's OK to wipe leather down with water |
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I decided to return it.
I ordered a Comfort Design manual recliner, cost $1,000 total including shipping. Polyester untreated fabric, all wood frame, lifetime warranty on everything but the fabric. Will take 6-8 weeks to get it but at least it should be higher quality than Living Spaces. Plus, it's Made in the USA |
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Sounds good.
The problems with powered recliners are twofold : - the magnetic field of the electro-motor when it runs ( can be pretty strong ) - the electrical field ( wether it runs or not ), which can spread out through the metal frame ( be amplified ). The latter is often also the case with steel armatures of desk- or other lamps. If you interrupt the current with a switch, this will only help if it disconnects the live wire. If only the neutral wire is switched off, although no current can flow the electrical field will not be stopped. If you still measure a strong electrical field after switching off the current, try reversing the poles of the plug in the socket. The cable between the socket and the switch will of course always produce an electrical field. So nothing beats unplugging, or simply use a manual recliner. Regarding batteries, these have to be charged which will then in general give nasty fields, and DC-electromotors are not clean either. If all this is a bit confusing, then, as a simple rule of thumb, keep cables away from yourselves, even more so if metal is nearby. |
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Well, I am definitely glad I returned it not just because of the EMF issue but from more research I learned that Living Spaces warranties are worthless because they don't include labor and that their Made in China crap is.....crap. Now I will have a manual recliner which I prefer anyway and a lifetime warranty and Made in America. I dodged a bullet here. Steve
On Saturday, November 23, 2019, 11:47:40 AM PST, earthworm [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sounds good.
The problems with powered recliners are twofold : - the magnetic field of the electro-motor when it runs ( can be pretty strong ) - the electrical field ( wether it runs or not ), which can spread out through the metal frame ( be amplified ). The latter is often also the case with steel armatures of desk- or other lamps. If you interrupt the current with a switch, this will only help if it disconnects the live wire. If only the neutral wire is switched off, although no current can flow the electrical field will not be stopped. If you still measure a strong electrical field after switching off the current, try reversing the poles of the plug in the socket. The cable between the socket and the switch will of course always produce an electrical field. So nothing beats unplugging, or simply use a manual recliner. Regarding batteries, these have to be charged which will then in general give nasty fields, and DC-electromotors are not clean either. If all this is a bit confusing, then, as a simple rule of thumb, keep cables away from yourselves, even more so if metal is nearby. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below:
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