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Grounded outlet: observations

carazzz

Two nights ago we grounded the outlet at my husband's home office workstation
-- the one into which we plug two computers, three printers, scanner, external
hard drive, a desk lamp, etc. Unlike others in our home, this outlet had never
been properly grounded before. (Don't ask...) When we were done, my husband
immediately said he could sense a difference. That night he spent several hours
working at his computer as usual, and continued to experience a significant
difference in his work environment. His description to me was that he felt lighter
and his spirits were unusually good (which from long experience I know tends to
mean that he was experiencing dramatically less physical pain).

I should add that my husband works from home and spends most of his time at
this particular workstation. We are lucky that we control his work environment
and can freely apply what we are learning about ES.

Additional observations: my husband woke yesterday morning feeling that he had
rested unusually well. He then proceeded an extraordinarily productive and
enjoyable day. (Work projects, house chores, etc.) We went out to dinner and
even dared to go into one of the stores that normally he cannot tolerate for
more than a few minutes (lots of fluorescent lighting). He did wear his OM
Polarizer during this last experiment, and we noticed an increased tolerance for
the unfriendly high-EMF environment.

Since it is early, and we have been experimenting with several things in the past
few days, it is not possible to say for certain which particular change is
responsible for the "good day" that we had yesterday -- or even if that
experience will be replicated in days or weeks to come. However, our intuition
says that grounding the outlet at the workstation is an important factor, and we
are encouraged to do more of this and to continue our shielding efforts
(appliance cords, etc.).

Have others on this list had similar or difficult results with grounding or
shielding?

Cara

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Andrew McAfee
I am very glad to hear the good results! In the last house that I had
(that was located near a TV broadcast tower and 3 cell phone base
station masts within a mile) there was a ceiling fan in the living room
that was not grounded. It was kicking up 15mG in the room.
The original electricians didn't quite understand the importance of
grounding and running the neutral with the hot wire to cancel the
magnetic field.
I love hearing about some success in this area.
Andrew

On Jan 13, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Cara wrote:

>
>
> Two nights ago we grounded the outlet at my husband's home office
> workstation
> -- the one into which we plug two computers, three printers, scanner,
> external
> hard drive, a desk lamp, etc. Unlike others in our home, this outlet
> had never
> been properly grounded before. (Don't ask...) When we were done, my
> husband
> immediately said he could sense a difference. That night he spent
> several hours
> working at his computer as usual, and continued to experience a
> significant
> difference in his work environment. His description to me was that he
> felt lighter
> and his spirits were unusually good (which from long experience I know
> tends to
> mean that he was experiencing dramatically less physical pain).
>
> I should add that my husband works from home and spends most of his
> time at
> this particular workstation. We are lucky that we control his work
> environment
> and can freely apply what we are learning about ES.
>
> Additional observations: my husband woke yesterday morning feeling
> that he had
> rested unusually well. He then proceeded an extraordinarily productive
> and
> enjoyable day. (Work projects, house chores, etc.) We went out to
> dinner and
> even dared to go into one of the stores that normally he cannot
> tolerate for
> more than a few minutes (lots of fluorescent lighting). He did wear
> his OM
> Polarizer during this last experiment, and we noticed an increased
> tolerance for
> the unfriendly high-EMF environment.
>
> Since it is early, and we have been experimenting with several things
> in the past
> few days, it is not possible to say for certain which particular
> change is
> responsible for the "good day" that we had yesterday -- or even if that
> experience will be replicated in days or weeks to come. However, our
> intuition
> says that grounding the outlet at the workstation is an important
> factor, and we
> are encouraged to do more of this and to continue our shielding efforts
> (appliance cords, etc.).
>
> Have others on this list had similar or difficult results with
> grounding or
> shielding?
>
> Cara
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Grounded outlet: observations

Marc Martin
Administrator
> The original electricians didn't quite understand the importance of
> grounding and running the neutral with the hot wire to cancel the
> magnetic field.
> I love hearing about some success in this area.

Is there some easy way to determine if your grounding is not correct?
I have a meter for measuring AC magnetic fields (reads 0.1 -199.9 mG
over the ELF range of 30 - 400 Hz)... is it as simple as looking for
unusually high fields?

Marc

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Re: Grounded outlet: observations

Emil at Less EMF Inc
One easy way to check for proper grounding is to use a 3-wire circuit analyzer.
See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#160

Another method is to use an Ohm meter. Put one lead into the outlet ground
socket and the other attached to a copper pipe well-seated in the Earth.
There should be a low resistance.

Emil


At 12:19 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:

> > The original electricians didn't quite understand the importance of
> > grounding and running the neutral with the hot wire to cancel the
> > magnetic field.
> > I love hearing about some success in this area.
>
>Is there some easy way to determine if your grounding is not correct?
>I have a meter for measuring AC magnetic fields (reads 0.1 -199.9 mG
>over the ELF range of 30 - 400 Hz)... is it as simple as looking for
>unusually high fields?
>
>Marc
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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carazzz

We use a device very similar to the circuit analyzer Emil mentions,
although ours was from www.timemotiontools.com (a great resource for
electrical and grounding supplies).

Until we obtained our tester we had no idea that many of our 3-prong
outlets were incorrectly grounded. We had naively assumed that 3
prongs = grounded. This assumption is wrong, expensive, and
dangerous. WRONG because, as an electrician friend pointed out, it's
almost impossible to find two-pronged face plates any more. So, a
builder or landlord will often use a 3-pronged face plate on an
outlet whether or not they have correctly grounded that outlet.
EXPENSIVE because incorrect or lack of grounding has almost certainly
resulted in the repeated malfunctioning of our computer equipment
over the years; we've had our computers in and out of the repair
shops with mysterious maladies, even while they were brand new.
DANGEROUS because my husband has been unnecessarily and unknowingly
exposed to higher than necessary levels of EMF for extended periods
over the past six years. And he never experienced ES symptoms before
he lived in this home and started spending most of his time at this
workstation.

No one should be exposed to unhealthy levels of EMF, obviously, but
in our case what really bites is that at least a partial remedy would
have been so easy. We had no employers or landlords to contend with -
and the process of grounding an outlet is simple enough for non-
technicians like us to handle ourselves. Only naivete and ignorance
prevented us from taking the necessary steps before damage was done.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@l...> wrote:
> One easy way to check for proper grounding is to use a 3-wire
circuit analyzer.
> See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#160
>

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Re: Grounded outlet: observations

Glenn Coleman
Cara,

That is a great lesson for all of us to consider with ES. 25% of the
outlets in my house are ungrounded, so I'm taking a second look at getting
them grounded. Something so simple could cause so many problems.

It reminds me of a time when I took care of a law firms main computers.
Every night at about 11:30pm, a whole bank of their computers would shutdown
for no reason. We started replacing all the battery backup systems, power
supplies, etc., and weeks went by and it just kept continuing. We were
pulling out our hair trying to figure out the problem. Finally my boss went
and sat in the room and waited until 11:30. Shortly after 11:30 the door
opened up, a hand reached in, unplugged a power cord, and plugged in a
vacuum cleaner.

Sometimes it is so obvious we can't see it.

Thanks,

Glenn

>From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Grounded outlet: observations
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:23:04 -0000
>
>
>We use a device very similar to the circuit analyzer Emil mentions,
>although ours was from www.timemotiontools.com (a great resource for
>electrical and grounding supplies).
>
>Until we obtained our tester we had no idea that many of our 3-prong
>outlets were incorrectly grounded. We had naively assumed that 3
>prongs = grounded. This assumption is wrong, expensive, and
>dangerous. WRONG because, as an electrician friend pointed out, it's
>almost impossible to find two-pronged face plates any more. So, a
>builder or landlord will often use a 3-pronged face plate on an
>outlet whether or not they have correctly grounded that outlet.
>EXPENSIVE because incorrect or lack of grounding has almost certainly
>resulted in the repeated malfunctioning of our computer equipment
>over the years; we've had our computers in and out of the repair
>shops with mysterious maladies, even while they were brand new.
>DANGEROUS because my husband has been unnecessarily and unknowingly
>exposed to higher than necessary levels of EMF for extended periods
>over the past six years. And he never experienced ES symptoms before
>he lived in this home and started spending most of his time at this
>workstation.
>
>No one should be exposed to unhealthy levels of EMF, obviously, but
>in our case what really bites is that at least a partial remedy would
>have been so easy. We had no employers or landlords to contend with -
>and the process of grounding an outlet is simple enough for non-
>technicians like us to handle ourselves. Only naivete and ignorance
>prevented us from taking the necessary steps before damage was done.
>
>Cara
>
>--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@l...> wrote:
> > One easy way to check for proper grounding is to use a 3-wire
>circuit analyzer.
> > See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#160
> >
>
>
>

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Re: Grounded outlet: observations

perla1133
Ohoh someone should ban me from this when iam doing the be beer beest thing. Cara and other wives (maybe husbands and the like) Thanks for the support. My ex, and i still live aND WORK WITH HIM, is like your crazy Tv iS Gods greatest invention and you used to love it soooo much. I still do beacause all is God's creATION and all man-made things are fashioned after a funCtion in the body (man the micro-cosm, as above so below).

aBOUT BELIEVES, THERE IS 21ST CENTURY HEALING. mEDITAtE IN PERFECT dna FOR HUMAN LIVE oN eARTH, AND YOU WILL ATTAIN,. Pictures to be found doing this Lovinfg computer with its love it emits from the internet.

For those who believe they had a spiritual; breakdown ie. a breakthrough try holy basil (thXX Beau)...

Love to all the loving support,

We are ONE

Glenn Coleman <[hidden email]> wrote:
Cara,

That is a great lesson for all of us to consider with ES. 25% of the
outlets in my house are ungrounded, so I'm taking a second look at getting
them grounded. Something so simple could cause so many problems.

It reminds me of a time when I took care of a law firms main computers.
Every night at about 11:30pm, a whole bank of their computers would shutdown
for no reason. We started replacing all the battery backup systems, power
supplies, etc., and weeks went by and it just kept continuing. We were
pulling out our hair trying to figure out the problem. Finally my boss went
and sat in the room and waited until 11:30. Shortly after 11:30 the door
opened up, a hand reached in, unplugged a power cord, and plugged in a
vacuum cleaner.

Sometimes it is so obvious we can't see it.

Thanks,

Glenn

>From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Grounded outlet: observations
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:23:04 -0000
>
>
>We use a device very similar to the circuit analyzer Emil mentions,
>although ours was from www.timemotiontools.com (a great resource for
>electrical and grounding supplies).
>
>Until we obtained our tester we had no idea that many of our 3-prong
>outlets were incorrectly grounded. We had naively assumed that 3
>prongs = grounded. This assumption is wrong, expensive, and
>dangerous. WRONG because, as an electrician friend pointed out, it's
>almost impossible to find two-pronged face plates any more. So, a
>builder or landlord will often use a 3-pronged face plate on an
>outlet whether or not they have correctly grounded that outlet.
>EXPENSIVE because incorrect or lack of grounding has almost certainly
>resulted in the repeated malfunctioning of our computer equipment
>over the years; we've had our computers in and out of the repair
>shops with mysterious maladies, even while they were brand new.
>DANGEROUS because my husband has been unnecessarily and unknowingly
>exposed to higher than necessary levels of EMF for extended periods
>over the past six years. And he never experienced ES symptoms before
>he lived in this home and started spending most of his time at this
>workstation.
>
>No one should be exposed to unhealthy levels of EMF, obviously, but
>in our case what really bites is that at least a partial remedy would
>have been so easy. We had no employers or landlords to contend with -
>and the process of grounding an outlet is simple enough for non-
>technicians like us to handle ourselves. Only naivete and ignorance
>prevented us from taking the necessary steps before damage was done.
>
>Cara
>
>--- In [hidden email], "Less EMF Inc." <lessemf@l...> wrote:
> > One easy way to check for proper grounding is to use a 3-wire
>circuit analyzer.
> > See http://www.lessemf.com/unique.html#160
> >
>
>
>




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Re: Grounded outlet: observations

Andrew McAfee
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
A man named Charles Keen from EMFServices.com came to my house and did
the testing. He used a gauss meter to check for elevated readings to
see if the there were code violations in the wiring. I think I remember
him saying a reading of about 4 or 5 mG at hip level or a couple of
feet from the wall is a sure indication that something isn't wired
right. Of course, you can put your meter right up on a dimmer switch,
power strip, outlet, appliances, etc. and get high readings. But if
there is a base line reading of 5mG+ that runs along the floor or along
the wall where the wires run, you've got wires that aren't properly
installed.
The head of my bed was also on the wall were the power came into the
house and the body voltage meter was saying I had between 4 and 7 volts
running through me in bed depending on what power outlets or appliances
were being used in the house. I don't quite understand all of the
details but I started turning off the power in the fuse box every night
after that to the bedrooms and adjoining rooms around me at night.
We ended up moving out of that house even after we fixed the wiring
because of the towers near by. What I learned was to handle the body
voltage separately from the magnetic fields and to address them
individually.
I hope that answers your question.
Andrew
On Jan 13, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

>
>> The original electricians didn't quite understand the importance of
>> grounding and running the neutral with the hot wire to cancel the
>> magnetic field.
>> I love hearing about some success in this area.
>
> Is there some easy way to determine if your grounding is not correct?
> I have a meter for measuring AC magnetic fields (reads 0.1 -199.9 mG
> over the ELF range of 30 - 400 Hz)... is it as simple as looking for
> unusually high fields?
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>