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Hillel Wahrman
I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES (!), and
the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with EBV
(Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a past
infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the body for
years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional stress , when
your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems, different problems
for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle trigger points,
and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)

He offered me some remedies which I wont go into now since my hands hurt
from the trigger points, I can't sit too long infront of this damn
computer. But if I feel better, I'll let you guys know. Its a carefully
designed diet + lots of supplemts (some hard to get) + working on feeling
emotionally happier. He said there is good chances of feeling much better in
a month or two (did I hear that before?).

You know, it was good just to be believed. I'll take it from there,

HIllel

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Jeffrey Lane
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--Maureen,
I had a fellow come in to do electrical testing--
baubiologie--and he found lots of 'stuff', but was able to make a
big change in the ambient static just by taking out the "ground
screw", I believe it's called in the electrical panel. He said it's
a common miss by many traditional electricians. Now I may have that
a little off, but I think it's what he told me, and the readings all
over the house changed immediately. I don't really understand
electricity, but this was significant somehow.

Jeffrey

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hillel Wahrman" <whillel@h...>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:38 PM
> Subject: [eSens] EBV virus connection?
>
>
> >
> > I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about
ES (!),
> and
> > the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection
with EBV
> > (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it
was, a past
> > infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in
the body for
> > years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
stress , when
> > your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems,
different problems
> > for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle
trigger points,
> > and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)
> >
> > He offered me some remedies which I wont go into now since my
hands hurt
> > from the trigger points, I can't sit too long infront of this
damn
> > computer. But if I feel better, I'll let you guys know. Its a
carefully
> > designed diet + lots of supplemts (some hard to get) + working
on feeling
> > emotionally happier. He said there is good chances of feeling
much better
> in
> > a month or two (did I hear that before?).
> >
> > You know, it was good just to be believed. I'll take it from
there,
> >
> > HIllel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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Interestingly, I also have had the Epstein Barr Virus vaiation of
glandular fever - in 1990, about the same time I suffered mercury
poisoning. Its impossible to know, though, whether I would still have
developed ES when the cell phone infrastructure was switched on...I
suspect I would have done.

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Hillel Wahrman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 3:39 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] EBV virus connection?



I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES (!),
and the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with
EBV (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a
past infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the
body for years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
stress , when your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems,
different problems for different people, such as chemical sensitivity,
muscle trigger points, and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of
those. (lol)

He offered me some remedies which I wont go into now since my hands hurt
from the trigger points, I can't sit too long infront of this damn
computer. But if I feel better, I'll let you guys know. Its a carefully
designed diet + lots of supplemts (some hard to get) + working on
feeling emotionally happier. He said there is good chances of feeling
much better in a month or two (did I hear that before?).

You know, it was good just to be believed. I'll take it from there,

HIllel





 
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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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Am wondering whether anyone else knows about a technique for reducing EM
fields in houses used here in Australia by John Lincoln in Sydney. He
recommends that a piece of plastic is inserted into the water pipes -
which generally carry quite a high charge of electricity that has leaked
from the lines. This plastic prevents this from happening. If people
are intersted I'll get more detailed instructions as to how to do this,
and how it works. John has had people come back to him sayng thweir
health has improved drmatically. He has even been on TV talking about
it.

sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lane [mailto:humulu@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:18 AM
To: eSens@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [eSens] Re: EBV virus connection?





--Maureen,
I had a fellow come in to do electrical testing--
baubiologie--and he found lots of 'stuff', but was able to make a
big change in the ambient static just by taking out the "ground
screw", I believe it's called in the electrical panel. He said it's
a common miss by many traditional electricians. Now I may have that
a little off, but I think it's what he told me, and the readings all
over the house changed immediately. I don't really understand
electricity, but this was significant somehow.

Jeffrey












> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hillel Wahrman" <whillel@h...>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:38 PM
> Subject: [eSens] EBV virus connection?
>
>
> >
> > I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about
ES (!),
> and
> > the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection
with EBV
> > (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it
was, a past
> > infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in
the body for
> > years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
stress , when
> > your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems,
different problems
> > for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle
trigger points,
> > and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)
> >
> > He offered me some remedies which I wont go into now since my
hands hurt
> > from the trigger points, I can't sit too long infront of this
damn
> > computer. But if I feel better, I'll let you guys know. Its a
carefully
> > designed diet + lots of supplemts (some hard to get) + working
on feeling
> > emotionally happier. He said there is good chances of feeling
much better
> in
> > a month or two (did I hear that before?).
> >
> > You know, it was good just to be believed. I'll take it from
there,
> >
> > HIllel


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franspppp
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--- In [hidden email], "Hillel Wahrman" <whillel@h...> wrote:
> I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES
(!), and
> the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with
EBV
> (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a
past
> infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the
body for
> years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
stress , when
> your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems, different
problems
> for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle trigger
points,
> and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)

I would not be surprised at all if there is an eppstein barr
connection to EHS.

My psychiatrist and general practitioner do recognize the possibility
of EMFS (electro magnetic field syndrom), psychiatrist writes the
discussion about the existence or non-existence of EMFS is not closed
at all. Both have a 'reasonable presumption' of EMFS in my case.

I was tested in July 2003 and eppstein barr was 55 (reference values
were 0.00 to 0.20).

The other things are:

a relatively low pseudocholinesterase level
september 2003 8 U/ml and december 2004 11 U/ml (ref. values 8-19)

mercury in blood <9.98 ug/l (ref. values 0.00 to 2.00, and German HDM
values 5.0 no risk and 15.0 acute need for intervention)

But this does not say that these levels necessarily relate to EHS (or
EMFS) and that eppstein barr and mercury cause EHS.

What kind of a doctor do you have? Is it a regular practitioner or a
alternative or complementary?

I found an article by L. Verschaeve in The Cancer Journal - Volume 8,
Number 5 (1995).
MECHANISMS OF ACTION:
1. INTERACTIONS WITH CELL MEMBRANES
Pericellular currents induced by electromagnetic fields are sensed by
intramembrane receptor proteins which amplify the signal and transfer
it to intracellular enzyme systems and to the cell nucleus. They may
produce intracellular alterations. etcetera
2. FREE RADICAL FORMATION AND OXIDATIVE STRESS
... Addition of a minimal amount of energy through application of a
low magnetic field from ELF or RF origin may be sufficient to disrupt
the oxidant/anti-oxidant equilibrium, favorizing oxidants.
3. MAGNETOSOMES IN THE BRAIN
... It was shown that the human brain also contains magnetosomes
(50). These microstructures behave like small magnets and may be
influenced by external electromagnetic fields changing their energy
content, which finally results in a mechanical force with, for
example, effects on the hypothalamus and repercussions on immune and
neuroendocrine functions. etcetera
4. RESONANCE PHENOMENA AND SYNCHRONISATION OF ENDOGENEOUS OSCILLATORS
Living organisms possess so-called endogeneous oscillators. ...These
oscillatory centers may absorb exogeneous low- and high-frequency EM
waves and acquire another oscillation frequency. Neurons that have
been modified will consequently synchronize other downstream neurons
in the same way. It should be noted that this external
synchronisation remains present after removal of the external
stimulus (EM field); in other words, the organisms will now function
according to the new frequency of oscillation (98, 118). This
hypothesis has already been verified experimentally (18).
5. THERMAL EFFECTS
When the temperature of an animal is increased by up to 1 C after
radiofrequency field irradiation, there is a thermally induced stress
that initiates a chain reaction ... The RF fields emitted by mobile
telephones are, however, not able to create high enough field
strengths to give such an effect.

I wonder if it is true that there are no thermal effects, maybe there
are but not within six minutes ;-)

The other 4 do not talk about eppstein barr or mercury.

4 could explain that zappers and harmonizers etc. could have an
effect (but then you have to stay away from the original radiation,
otherwise the unwanted oscillation will return).

So far.

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Andrew McAfee
Very interesting! I am going to try Colloidal Silver and see if it can
kill the virus. It may only keep it at bay but that is better than
nothing.
Andrew
On Feb 16, 2005, at 2:09 PM, franspppp wrote:

>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Hillel Wahrman" <whillel@h...> wrote:
>> I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES
> (!), and
>> the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with
> EBV
>> (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a
> past
>> infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the
> body for
>> years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
> stress , when
>> your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems, different
> problems
>> for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle trigger
> points,
>> and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)
>
> I would not be surprised at all if there is an eppstein barr
> connection to EHS.
>
> My psychiatrist and general practitioner do recognize the possibility
> of EMFS (electro magnetic field syndrom), psychiatrist writes the
> discussion about the existence or non-existence of EMFS is not closed
> at all. Both have a 'reasonable presumption' of EMFS in my case.
>
> I was tested in July 2003 and eppstein barr was 55 (reference values
> were 0.00 to 0.20).
>
> The other things are:
>
> a relatively low pseudocholinesterase level
> september 2003 8 U/ml and december 2004 11 U/ml (ref. values 8-19)
>
> mercury in blood <9.98 ug/l (ref. values 0.00 to 2.00, and German HDM
> values 5.0 no risk and 15.0 acute need for intervention)
>
> But this does not say that these levels necessarily relate to EHS (or
> EMFS) and that eppstein barr and mercury cause EHS.
>
> What kind of a doctor do you have? Is it a regular practitioner or a
> alternative or complementary?
>
> I found an article by L. Verschaeve in The Cancer Journal - Volume 8,
> Number 5 (1995).
> MECHANISMS OF ACTION:
> 1. INTERACTIONS WITH CELL MEMBRANES
> Pericellular currents induced by electromagnetic fields are sensed by
> intramembrane receptor proteins which amplify the signal and transfer
> it to intracellular enzyme systems and to the cell nucleus. They may
> produce intracellular alterations. etcetera
> 2. FREE RADICAL FORMATION AND OXIDATIVE STRESS
> ... Addition of a minimal amount of energy through application of a
> low magnetic field from ELF or RF origin may be sufficient to disrupt
> the oxidant/anti-oxidant equilibrium, favorizing oxidants.
> 3. MAGNETOSOMES IN THE BRAIN
> ... It was shown that the human brain also contains magnetosomes
> (50). These microstructures behave like small magnets and may be
> influenced by external electromagnetic fields changing their energy
> content, which finally results in a mechanical force with, for
> example, effects on the hypothalamus and repercussions on immune and
> neuroendocrine functions. etcetera
> 4. RESONANCE PHENOMENA AND SYNCHRONISATION OF ENDOGENEOUS OSCILLATORS
> Living organisms possess so-called endogeneous oscillators. ...These
> oscillatory centers may absorb exogeneous low- and high-frequency EM
> waves and acquire another oscillation frequency. Neurons that have
> been modified will consequently synchronize other downstream neurons
> in the same way. It should be noted that this external
> synchronisation remains present after removal of the external
> stimulus (EM field); in other words, the organisms will now function
> according to the new frequency of oscillation (98, 118). This
> hypothesis has already been verified experimentally (18).
> 5. THERMAL EFFECTS
> When the temperature of an animal is increased by up to 1 C after
> radiofrequency field irradiation, there is a thermally induced stress
> that initiates a chain reaction ... The RF fields emitted by mobile
> telephones are, however, not able to create high enough field
> strengths to give such an effect.
>
> I wonder if it is true that there are no thermal effects, maybe there
> are but not within six minutes ;-)
>
> The other 4 do not talk about eppstein barr or mercury.
>
> 4 could explain that zappers and harmonizers etc. could have an
> effect (but then you have to stay away from the original radiation,
> otherwise the unwanted oscillation will return).
>
> So far.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)
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I think Colloidal Silver is one of the best things on the health market
for infection. I find it just as effective as antibiotics - and no
side-effects. Not sure if it will be any good for a virus
though.....worth experimenting. I find any bacterial infection responds
immediately - no matter how advnaced it is.

http://www.colloidalsilver.net.au/infopage.htm

I'm amazed that more people don't know about it or use it. I honestly
believe it has saved my life a couple of times (when I contracted
Meningacoccal Disease a couple of years ago for example - I had all 8
symptoms).

Sarah

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 6:41 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: EBV virus connection?



Very interesting! I am going to try Colloidal Silver and see if it can
kill the virus. It may only keep it at bay but that is better than
nothing.
Andrew
On Feb 16, 2005, at 2:09 PM, franspppp wrote:

>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Hillel Wahrman" <whillel@h...> wrote:
>> I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES
> (!), and
>> the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with
> EBV
>> (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a
> past
>> infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the
> body for
>> years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional
> stress , when
>> your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems, different
> problems
>> for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle trigger
> points,
>> and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)
>
> I would not be surprised at all if there is an eppstein barr
> connection to EHS.
>
> My psychiatrist and general practitioner do recognize the possibility
> of EMFS (electro magnetic field syndrom), psychiatrist writes the
> discussion about the existence or non-existence of EMFS is not closed
> at all. Both have a 'reasonable presumption' of EMFS in my case.
>
> I was tested in July 2003 and eppstein barr was 55 (reference values
> were 0.00 to 0.20).
>
> The other things are:
>
> a relatively low pseudocholinesterase level
> september 2003 8 U/ml and december 2004 11 U/ml (ref. values 8-19)
>
> mercury in blood <9.98 ug/l (ref. values 0.00 to 2.00, and German HDM
> values 5.0 no risk and 15.0 acute need for intervention)
>
> But this does not say that these levels necessarily relate to EHS (or
> EMFS) and that eppstein barr and mercury cause EHS.
>
> What kind of a doctor do you have? Is it a regular practitioner or a
> alternative or complementary?
>
> I found an article by L. Verschaeve in The Cancer Journal - Volume 8,
> Number 5 (1995). MECHANISMS OF ACTION:
> 1. INTERACTIONS WITH CELL MEMBRANES
> Pericellular currents induced by electromagnetic fields are sensed by
> intramembrane receptor proteins which amplify the signal and transfer
> it to intracellular enzyme systems and to the cell nucleus. They may
> produce intracellular alterations. etcetera
> 2. FREE RADICAL FORMATION AND OXIDATIVE STRESS
> ... Addition of a minimal amount of energy through application of a
> low magnetic field from ELF or RF origin may be sufficient to disrupt
> the oxidant/anti-oxidant equilibrium, favorizing oxidants.
> 3. MAGNETOSOMES IN THE BRAIN
> ... It was shown that the human brain also contains magnetosomes
> (50). These microstructures behave like small magnets and may be
> influenced by external electromagnetic fields changing their energy
> content, which finally results in a mechanical force with, for
> example, effects on the hypothalamus and repercussions on immune and
> neuroendocrine functions. etcetera
> 4. RESONANCE PHENOMENA AND SYNCHRONISATION OF ENDOGENEOUS OSCILLATORS
> Living organisms possess so-called endogeneous oscillators. ...These
> oscillatory centers may absorb exogeneous low- and high-frequency EM
> waves and acquire another oscillation frequency. Neurons that have
> been modified will consequently synchronize other downstream neurons
> in the same way. It should be noted that this external
> synchronisation remains present after removal of the external
> stimulus (EM field); in other words, the organisms will now function
> according to the new frequency of oscillation (98, 118). This
> hypothesis has already been verified experimentally (18).
> 5. THERMAL EFFECTS
> When the temperature of an animal is increased by up to 1 C after
> radiofrequency field irradiation, there is a thermally induced stress
> that initiates a chain reaction ... The RF fields emitted by mobile
> telephones are, however, not able to create high enough field
> strengths to give such an effect.
>
> I wonder if it is true that there are no thermal effects, maybe there
> are but not within six minutes ;-)
>
> The other 4 do not talk about eppstein barr or mercury.
>
> 4 could explain that zappers and harmonizers etc. could have an effect

> (but then you have to stay away from the original radiation, otherwise

> the unwanted oscillation will return).
>
> So far.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




 
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Ian Kemp
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Hi Hillel,
Glad to hear youve found some useful insights there. Sue has been going to
Breakspear Hospital (Hemel Hempstead, UK) which specialises in allergies and
sensitivities including ES, and we met a couple of people who have been down
to a really low ebb but are now almost better after long treatment. The
hospital says that there is usually some original trigger for the problems,
and it was certainly the case for these two ladies - one had had
Epstein-Barr virus, the other glandular fever. Apparently EBV is a common
starting point for these problems.
.
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hillel Wahrman" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:38 PM
Subject: [eSens] EBV virus connection?


>
> I just came back from a doctor who actually said he knows about ES (!),
and

> the first question he asked me is if I had a past infection with EBV
> (Epstein Barr virus). We checked my blood test, and there it was, a past
> infection - positive. Then he said that this virus resides in the body for
> years and together with heavy metals poisoning and emotional stress , when
> your body is weak and vulnerable, causes many problems, different problems
> for different people, such as chemical sensitivity, muscle trigger points,
> and electric sensitivity. Well, I have all of those. (lol)
>
> He offered me some remedies which I wont go into now since my hands hurt
> from the trigger points, I can't sit too long infront of this damn
> computer. But if I feel better, I'll let you guys know. Its a carefully
> designed diet + lots of supplemts (some hard to get) + working on feeling
> emotionally happier. He said there is good chances of feeling much better
in

> a month or two (did I hear that before?).
>
> You know, it was good just to be believed. I'll take it from there,
>
> HIllel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>